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How do you know which is the right idea to write?

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Unsurewhattodo1995 · 12/02/2023 20:40

I have lots of ideas for stories...but whenever I start writing one I think 'actually this is crap. while I'm writing this one I'm not working on the other stories, which are better and what if another author has the same idea as me and writes it while I'm working on this story, which is the wrong one?'
Not sure if that makes sense but basically I have wanted to write for as long as I can remember, and over the last fifteen years have written the first two chapters of countless ideas for books...then decided I was writing the wrong story.

Any ideas? (Or do I just need a therapist?!)

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Fandangles · 12/02/2023 20:59

Haha, I know exactly what you mean! I think it’s fairly common. I procrastinate terribly and, after writing a few thousand words, tend to absolutely hate the story and want to follow a fresh new shiny idea.

I came across a site called writers HQ and did a few of their free courses, one of which is called “write a tiny novel in 5 days” or something. That gave the seed of my idea a bit more shape and I’ve now signed up to the membership option and doing the Plotstormers course. It’s the furthest I’ve ever taken an initial idea (not going to lie, I’ve got to planning the middle bit and feel like it’s shit again!). But I think I will actually plough on. Have now decided I would simply like to write a story from beginning to end. It doesn’t have to be brilliant, just complete!

good luck 😉

LouisaMayAlcott · 13/02/2023 11:42

Every author that I know (including myself!) gets halfway through writing a book and then it feels like a slog (the heavy middle bit where the end isn't in sight) and a new shiny idea pops up saying 'write me, write me!' but if you keep starting the new idea you'll never going to finish anything. You need to keep pushing on when you get to that heavy middle and know that you will get out the other side. Those other ideas won't go anywhere!

FlyingUnicornWings · 13/02/2023 11:44

Go with the idea you feel most excited about, because it is a long slog!
Regarding another author writing the same idea as you, I read a quote once that went something along the lines of “Every idea has already been written. Yes, it has, but not by you.”

Good luck!

Luckydog7 · 03/05/2023 19:26

Good writing is less about good ideas and more about being able to write interestingly. You need to make even the boring bits engaging. If you are bored writing it then thats your cue to add something to make it less boring. Skip past that bit entirely, introduce a new quirk or conflict that introduces interest. A good writer can take the the most boring or bizzarre subject and make it fascinating. That is the true challenge of writing.

Outgrabe · 03/05/2023 22:50

Unsurewhattodo1995 · 12/02/2023 20:40

I have lots of ideas for stories...but whenever I start writing one I think 'actually this is crap. while I'm writing this one I'm not working on the other stories, which are better and what if another author has the same idea as me and writes it while I'm working on this story, which is the wrong one?'
Not sure if that makes sense but basically I have wanted to write for as long as I can remember, and over the last fifteen years have written the first two chapters of countless ideas for books...then decided I was writing the wrong story.

Any ideas? (Or do I just need a therapist?!)

You’re asking yourself the wrong question, though.

Clearly there’s something in you that wants to stop writing (understandably, because writing is hard), and thinking you’re writing the wrong story gives you permission to stop, and has done for a decade and a half.

Frankly, if you don’t want to lie on your deathbed looking back on several more decades of aborted stories, you need to change the pattern.

Finish something. It doesn’t matter if it’s shit.

The first draft is invariably bad, or mine are, but that’s just to get something down. Allow it to be bad. Then rewrite, revise, refine, or scrap and write the subplot as the main story, but in first person, set thirty years earlier, and with the villain as the main character. Or set it in 18thc Japan, or the court of Louis XIV, or on a space shuttle.

And if that kind of process sounds like too much work, then you can also decide that you’re ok with stopping wanting to write, too. It’s not compulsory!

larkstar · 01/07/2023 20:01

I'll chip in with something that might help. The ideas for stories you talk about are your "initial ideas" - much like panning for gold - finding a raw nugget isn't enough in itself - who do you know that treasures a cancerous lump of gold? The ideas you need are the ones that will help fashion this initial idea, this raw material, into something fascinating, beautiful and beguiling that someone will want to take to heart: initial ideas on their own are never enough. Now, of you are a rock climber looking up at where you want to get to (or even where you think you want to get to to begin with) - you can look up at the rock face and see sections that, even though difficult, look climbable. You have to discovery or invent ways to overcome the difficult sections to knit a route together - I think this is the skill a writer needs to think about developing. Firstly, like a climber, I genuinely believe there is a solution - I always believe there is a way. I've written lots of songs - many of them start off promisingly and then I got a problem or run out of ideas or I don't really know, never knew in fact, where the song was going anyway - what it's point was BUT I have seen breakthroughs come - usually after much time turning ideas over on my head, or after researching something, or by making a connection to something else I've been absorbed with - there are many ways this can happen - and these breakthroughs seen to come out of nothing and in an instant but in reality I don't think that is how inspiration works - but I've seen how a new idea can unlock a problem and show you to move forward. I definitely think I have to stand back from the problem and think more laterally, more widely, more loosely about what I'm working on and not be so wedded to my initial ideas or where I thought they were going. Paul Simon, in Paul Zollo's huge excellent book of interviews with songwriters, said during his writing for the Graceland album, he noticed his songwriting changed - he likened his initial ideas to finding the end of a piece of string - out of curiosity, he tries to follow it to see where it leads - so he's saying he accepts that he doesn't always have a clear idea of where he is going or why, at the beginning - he likens it to an act of discovery. If what I'm writing isn't interesting I take several steps back to look at way to make it interesting - this part of my job as a writer - to work at making it, keeping it interesting, staying ahead of expectations, out-thinking the reader - I step back many times and reject ideas because they are too obvious, too easy, a cliche perhaps - seriously, I believe that sometimes quite subtle twists, shall ideas, can turn a mundane storyline into something interesting - I've seen it happen many times. I was helping a friend with a song about the strange, lonely existence living in the unpeopled wide rural expanses, in the backwoods of Oregon - I put one line into his song that completely changed an atmospheric song into something much darker and sinister - the line was "pretty little in the back of my car" - it's a connection made, I think, with my impression of the strange stories I hear coming from America, about the murders, feuds and abductions in very isolated areas where normal rules of law or morals sometimes break down. It also taps into dark, deep rooted fears - I see this as groundwater which we all share - it connects us - so going deeper emotionally is one way to look for new angles to connect your story with the reader - look at what we all share.

I enjoy crosswords and buy the Times Jumbo books of 60 crosswords - I don't like them because they are easy, I like it because they need some thinking about, where would the interests be if they were easy - I enjoy writing exactly because it is difficult, there is a while series of little and big problems that need solving - you've got to learn to love the whole process - not just the part where you get an initial idea. If you don't enjoy it, all of it, why do it?

larkstar · 01/07/2023 23:26

Uugh! Phone finger spelling!
"pretty little girl in the back of my car"...
Hopefully that makes my anecdote make a little more sense.

As @Outgrabe said in so many words - you have got to be prepared to go back and take a hatchet to what you have done and rewrite, reconstitute, reassemble, reconstruct it, i.e be prepared to make big changes... I think you have to look at what you have from different angles... don't be too wedded to what you thought you were doing to begin with.

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