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How to provide feedback - delicate

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nachthexe · 26/10/2020 16:07

How can I best provide workshop feedback to a brain injury survivor?
She joined a (paid for) class and has submitted a memoir excerpt. She said she’s writing to give people hope. She’s a serial self-publisher and from what I can tell, doesn’t usually use proofreader/ editor and prints stacks of these memoirs and gives them away to homeless shelters and hospices altruistically. She was originally going to provide an excerpt from one she has published previously, but we asked that it be an unpublished piece as it’s a writing workshop.
Anyhoo. It’s a memoir in a series of narrative poems and I’m really struggling. She sees them as a series of essays in hope and different helpful tips in how to get through different difficult situations.
Reading it as an insight into the workings of the mind of a traumatic brain injury survivor, it’s brilliant. (It’s rhyming narrative, with the rhyming words chosen from repeated cliches. I’m choosing to see this as intentional, and it leads to some really provoking and challenging juxtapositions.) But there is no context.
It’s impossible to tell what has happened to her, or even what is happening during this series of presumably memoir vignettes. There is nothing to hold onto. No event or time or anything concrete. Just interlocking words. Not even stream of consciousness, where you could follow a path of thought.

If this is the point, it’s genius. And it just needs context and I can absolutely provide some feedback on this basis.

There is a lot of gospel-train imagery. Iron bells, crew members. It’s as though the phrase ‘gospel train’ popped into your head and you conjured it literally as the congregation offering hallelujahs and egg sandwiches. (My words, not hers. There are neither hallelujahs nor egg sandwiches.)

There’s a river and a lot of dust and dirt, in another ‘essay’ which I could happily link to baptism.

Heeeeeelp me.

Part of me wants to give feedback as though this is an intentional and deliberately written piece to disconcert and challenge the genre - what does memoir look like if you lose the function of memory? But this only works if the author has that understanding. And.... I just don’t know. She hasn’t been able to articulate anything in session except that she had a brain injury and spent years in hospital. Possibly also then again institutionalised for mental health for a long period.

She talks in terms of recovering and wanting to use her writing as inspirational. (My translation). She’s not able to join in workshopping other pieces. Her voice is echolalic and she struggles with understanding the more basic elements of group administration. Despite the fact we’re meeting on zoom, I can see the other group members get exaspirated. There’s head shaking and lip-pursing and eye-rolling. I want to be kind but I’m finding it really hard to know how to frame constructive feedback. She doesn’t really do feedback - she writes and publishes and stacks the books in her basement and gives them away. Every session she tells us that she has published x books. And another one is in print.

God, sorry for the essay. This probably makes as much literal sense as the memoir does.

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nachthexe · 26/10/2020 16:10

Oh she’s also elderly. Late 70s at a guess, but not cognitively ‘young’ - hard to say how much of the confusion is brain injury and how much is exacerbated by ageing. She doesn’t inhabit the past.
Again, I guess, what does dementia look like if you don’t have the capacity for memory?
It’s either brilliant or impossible.
As a reader, I am challenged.

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ContraIndicated · 26/10/2020 16:14

Are you the group leader or a participant? If you’re a participant I would just not seek to engage with her work. If you’re the group leader, I think I’d explain that the group isn’t really right for her and refund the money. I think it’s unlikely that she will benefit from criticism and it’s basically just wasting her money.

nachthexe · 26/10/2020 16:28

I’m a participant. I’ve raised my concerns with the group leader but she’s showing no signs of giving us any guidance other than to provide feedback in the session. And technically that’s part of the workshop, so as a participant I agree to provide feedback to everyone else in return for feedback on my own writing...
What makes it slightly worse is that we are sharing the feedback session (as in, my piece is the other one scheduled to be workshopped in that session). And my piece is a more trad run through of what amounted to my daughter’s brain injury.
I don’t think this has been thought through.
But it’s been really valuable to me in terms of triggering thinking about memoir itself....
I’ve taught creative writing 101 but in a university setting to undergrads. I’m way more comfortable in an academic writing context and could happily talk for hours and pontificate about this. But as a piece of lit crit. Not as a workshop with the author to help them improve the piece. My 1-1 work is usually with neurotypical twenty-somethings... aaaargh.

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WeetabixComesAtAPrice · 26/10/2020 16:50

You say she is already self-publishing and distributing her writing. Do you know what exactly it is she's looking to gain from the writing workshop? It's really for the leader to steer her if her work isn't suited to the aim she has in mind.

I think all you can do is respond honestly to her work, as you have done in your post - that the writing itself is insightful and intriguing but in your opinion it would benefit from some context. As a participant, not a leader, I think it's fine to respond from the perspective of a reader.

growinggreyer · 26/10/2020 17:01

This does sound like a difficult one and I doubt that the lady has the ability to take on board any serious critique of her work. I wonder if you could say that the work shows all the good points you have identified but that you feel it needs context for readers without the awareness that you and she bring to it, so maybe she could get someone else to write a biographical foreword to accompany the writing so that the images have something real to root them in. Eg, if she had an accident in water then the river imagery would be more stark. Once this biographical foreword is written, it can be included in every piece she self-publishes and would also be useful as a newspaper or magazine puff piece if she wanted to publicise herself.

nachthexe · 26/10/2020 23:07

Thanks both. Really helpful. It was a very strange session and everyone was a bit reticent at first, but she was absolutely delighted that (as it turned out) everyone read her work as poetry. It hadn’t occurred to her. And then she said she spent three years as a street preacher and it wasn’t actually memoir, just things she wrote. In 2013. She was thrilled about the idea of it reading as poetry and is going to publish it as a poetry book instead. One of the other participants suggested she separate it out into more traditional couplets and showed her how. So I suggested breaking down some of the lines even further. But don’t lay it all out the same. Play with it a bit.
We have to follow up with written feedback too, so I’ve suggested the idea of a biographical foreword to give readers context.
It was very interesting. But it went better than I expected it to and I’m quite glad it’s done!!!
Thank you all!

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nachthexe · 26/10/2020 23:13

Weetabix - I genuinely think that she’s been encouraged to take part in these groups for therapeutic/ social reasons by her team. I recruit writers for a different org and we usually gently suggest more local community based (free) groups. I’ve previously had to write letters to people with that sort of guidance as it’s unethical to take their money any longer.
She seemed quite happy though. And I suspect is diligently going to go through, hit return after every line, and publish again.
It could actually be brilliant.
She needs to work 1-1 with someone.
Or not.
I assume she has access to funds and she seems happy enough.

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growinggreyer · 27/10/2020 12:20

I'm sure she will be happy to have had the feedback and interaction from your group. Well done, you handled things with sensitivity. Did you get your own writing workshopped? I hope you also got what you needed from the session. Flowers

nachthexe · 28/10/2020 05:29

I did. Thanks for asking Smile it’s a new genre for me so I submitted a shitty first draft - got some great feedback and it’s a good space to try out new things. A lot of the participants are polishing for publication but I’m more interested in overall reaction as to whether different things work and are at an instinctive level interesting to others. Always feels a little odd writing about my own experiences!!! Really positive though, so I was pleased.

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