Election 2024 . Not that one, though the Trump victory is sure to influence some of what we are threatened and promised. presumably we'll have a date soon.

[DeanElderberry]

Any wise thoughts?

@Onehorsetown

I meant to add that there certainly a lot of scripted looking for trouble as well.

But they came from everywhere, including Wicklow and Meath. Simon Harris and Helen McEntee districts.

HmE using scumbags at that time only reinforced the beliefs of the area that this is what government think.

Just to add, when anyone is told enough times they are not good enough, they are lesser, people will eventually believe this and act accordingly.

It is a vicious cycle and needs something, just not sure what.

But whatever it is, it will cost a serious amount of money and that won't happen

This is a country wide election and we are all watching to see who will represent us for next 4-5yrs.

@DublinFemale what could be done to help D1 though, in theory? Genuine question, I'm not too familiar with the area. If you were the rep what would you do and where would you start?

I'd be concerned with the optics of people voting for GH. I heard someone yesterday say it was 'a bunch of criminals voting for a criminal'. Unfortunately even if he does good work for the community it will only reinforce a negative perception.

I kinda hope Alan Kelly gets in on the next count, because he does work hard on the local issues, including the disgraceful decades-long mess made of local hospitals, as well as being generally intelligent, but also because I saw his mammy at mass last evening and she looked absolutely wrecked.

Sinn Fein really aren't transferring well. I think we're going to end up with FF/FG in the mid 80's in terms of seats and either labour or a few independents propping them up

I'm have to go out so last time wreaking your heads.

Just absorb and think about the post below.

I'm half NI and have loads of family still there.

From speaking with them (only them not community representing) the optics of the party Fianna Fáil who negotiated the GFA refusing to go into government with SF when they themselves tied the GFA in such a way that the biggest nationalist and unionist parties work together is not a good look.

They asked the question why is it good enough for NI but not for "down South". My bug bear so said to irritate me.

That has made me think, still asking myself that question based on the history around it.

I saw Bertie on tv yesterday (my god he has aged) and my first thought was he would have gone into coalition with SF.

Tony Gregory was brilliant. But he got lucky when FF needed his vote. So he put the screws on Haughey for £50m . Now FF have FG on the team. Not sure what Hutch can do realistically? Legally , I mean.

I really want to live to see Taoiseach DublinFemale implement her game-changing programme for government packed with options for poor communities and with a policy of listening to what people say. Just so I can tell everyone 'I remember her when she was a young one on Mumsnet'.

It definitely needs radical action.

There is decades of neglect to be changed, major uphill battle.

Something which always bugged me is randomly when flats get so run down money is pumped into upgrading talking millions.

Yet they move everyone back in but they are not doing any work around resetting the thought process which due to years of neglect, people give up.

There is zero maintenance, by maintenance I'm talking, flushing the waste water pipes, ensuring the sewage shores are adequate for purpose, dealing with the rat problems in some complexes.

Even just coming out to do maintenance if there is a report, my own personal experience, one of the bedrooms was flooded from waste water pipes from ceiling, ceiling came down in 2014. It was reported, I did my best to limit damage.

After a month of daily leaks above me and zero communication from DCC , I took out a loan and paid for a plumber and with the goodwill and assistance of neighbour above, he fixed it.

I got a knock on the door 3 weeks ago from DCC regarding the report of leak in the ceiling.

10yrs later they called to look at it.

That is 1 example, but it is indicative of the way the community is treated.

Neglect, ignored and forgotten.

So when the revamp occurs, it was widely accepted that this it, if it collapses around them, there is no support.

Mindset reinforced.

Can you leave that with me, I am gonna think over.

What would I do?

I will return with an answer.

Unfortunately it just reinforces peoples opinions of the area that they would elect the leader of an international crime gang in to government.
It is perpetuating criminality in the area and such a bad example for children growing up there.

When my dad's family moved out of the tenements into D7 housing in the late 20s his father and other old inner city Trades Unionists (I think probably ex Citizen Army, but they didn't talk about the war) tried to set up a system where everyone would make a certain number of hours of their expertise available communally - sort of meitheal applied in an urban setting. And it mostly failed, because there were lots of people who'd take advantage of the hedge-clipper, sock-mender, window-cleaner, without ever putting anything back. But pockets survived into the 1970s, mostly I think people who remembered obligations dating back to their parents' generation.

Does the GAA do anything effective for the youngsters? Goodness knows they make enough money.

I remember that story about the inner city community (probably D8) who developed a community garden that had a transformative effect locally and then the developer moved in without notice and wrecked it. Even this year the council sent contractors in to another place to destroy a wildlife area. Communities combine! Inner city best community garden competition - if there isn't one there should be - give people a chance to meet each other and compare notes on what needs to be done.

Bertie would have gone into coalition with Satan if it got him into power

I'm not speaking from a Dublin perspective but I think a lot of the problems in Ireland come from squeaky wheel gets the grease, if you know who to talk to and how to make yourself a nuisance, you can get things done but if you're an ordinary person who doesn't have connections and doesn't know how the system works it is incredibly difficult and you will be stonewalled every bit of the way.

Both national and local government in Ireland massively over promise and for the vast majority of people under deliver.

For example I filed an FOI with a State body a few weeks ago, got a response that they didn't hold that data and I should ask someone else. Low and behold when I reply and say, is that a formal refusal I need the refusal to be formal so I can appeal it, suddenly they have all the data I requested.

I am always concerned when voters support their local candidate because s/he "gets things done in the area". To me that just perpetuates parish pump politics. Voting for Dail Eireann is a National vote for those who will drive policy and legislation for the next five years. The big things, not the local pot hole.

What are local Councillors for then?

I think we should have a list system.

@VaddaABeetch

My post is primarily about the visual of some (as I said my own family members, not community) that SF is good enough for NI as negotiated by FF but not by us.

That is the question I have been pondering during this election.

The Bertie part is a passing remark as I saw him on tv last night.

Yeap that's common, I watch FOI's get bounced around like bed springs after a Saturday session.

No one wants to take responsibility as they have to sign off

We had a social welfare benefit "problem". I'm pretty ( and no one will convince me otherwise ) sure if we were in Healy Ray's Kerry constituency it would have been sorted pronto and the benefit received, but because we were in a mainly middle class Dublin constituency our TD who was in government just sent details to us of the Social Welfare Department that dealt with that stuff.
Benefit was never received - partly our fault as we didn't push hard enough for them
and the person has since died sadly.

I saw Bertie on one of the panels last night also, and thought it showed pretty poor judgement on the part of RTE. The same presenters who could barely conceal their horror and disdain at the prospect of 'The Monk' being elected, clearly had no problem with an Ex- Taoiseach with such a legacy of corruption.

As for NI vs. the Republic of Ireland, the stakes are much higher in NI. If there is no power sharing agreement in NI (or it fails), then the prospect that faces the people there is a return to a civil war. We're not facing that same prospect here in the ROI, so there is less pressure on FF or FG to enter into government with SF.

Fascinating and agony looking at where the transfers are going. My kitchen is nearer being tidy that it's been in years.

RTE are now speculating GH may not get the fourth seat. They aren't expecting him to get many of MF transfers.

I think they should just hand over the running of the country to the Returning Officer in Dublin Central - no emming or awing, no tapping the microphone nervously, no hesitation or deviation, not a hint of pressure when announcing where the transfers are going😱
Mnásome!

Whatever they do they'd best not give it to the one in Wicklow or nowt would ever get done!

My second entirely flippant remark is: do they practise lifting the victors up on their shoulders?? It seems to be done so seamlessly, and so far I haven't seen any dislocated hips..

I notice they don't usually lift the women up on their shoulders - defenders of Imane Khélif take note