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Craicnet

The partition of craicnet

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Crokepark · 26/06/2024 18:02

I was bemused by this and have been digesting the reply I received from mumsnet hq for a few months. I politely suggested there could be different sections in Craicnet for NI and ROI. Not for any nefarious reasons, just because obviously they are two different places and someone starting a thread about moving to NI isn't looking for loads of responses from ROI people going 'well, I don't know about NI, but in ROI...'
For clarity, I am Irish in the Republic of Ireland. I received one of the coldest and snippiest replies that I've ever received. They told me they are not going to 'partition' Craicnet. I'm not upset but I am slightly taken aback and amused. Partition already happened 100 years ago and I was not personally responsible. Did I make a dreadful faux pas? Confused.

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Butthistimesticktoit · 24/11/2024 20:07

Also an oldtime craicnetter from NI, would truly be gutted to be othered off into a partitioned bit. I find craicnet so helpful and interesting, our news can be pretty siloed and brexit was so shit, please let us stay!

Crokepark · 27/11/2024 21:58

@butthistimesticktoit don't worry. It's me again. I started this thread. I'm not advocating for it anymore. I was just taken aback to receive such a snippy response in the email 😂

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JaneJeffer · 27/11/2024 22:11

It was a weird response!

DullTopic · 01/12/2024 21:38

Singleandnotsureifreadytomingle · 03/07/2024 15:38

I tell English people they are just from Southern Scotland.

On boards.ie in Ireland, many rugby/soccer fans are disdainfully referred to as 'West Brits'!

Singleandnotsureifreadytomingle · 02/12/2024 10:59

Yeah we have been using that term here for decades, sorry!

Mearabade · 04/12/2024 22:03

Thetroutofnocraic1 · 29/06/2024 18:41

They are different countries for sure I agree. However I don’t think there is a need to partition craicnet. There are shared interests and commonalities between NI and the republic. When you read a thread it is always clear if the person is discussing NI or the Republic so I don’t see the big deal? I’m from the republic but live in a border county so I am in NI frequently. Who cares ?

They are different countries but everyone in Northern Ireland has Irish citizenship,

So I can see why mumsnet wrote that.

Rainbowandgrey · 04/12/2024 22:41

Mearabade · 04/12/2024 22:03

They are different countries but everyone in Northern Ireland has Irish citizenship,

So I can see why mumsnet wrote that.

People in NI are entitled to claim Irish citizenship, they don’t have it automatically. They’re British citizens at birth. (There are some exceptions for people whose parents aren’t citizens at time of their birth etc).

Apileofballyhoo · 09/12/2024 22:23

Rainbowandgrey · 04/12/2024 22:41

People in NI are entitled to claim Irish citizenship, they don’t have it automatically. They’re British citizens at birth. (There are some exceptions for people whose parents aren’t citizens at time of their birth etc).

No, they are as Irish as they would be if born in the south, they don't have to claim, they just are. They can apply for an Irish passport straight off without going through any kind of claiming citizenship process. Provided of course they have a parent or grandparent who was also an Irish citizen at the time of their birth.

Rainbowandgrey · 10/12/2024 01:12

Apileofballyhoo · 09/12/2024 22:23

No, they are as Irish as they would be if born in the south, they don't have to claim, they just are. They can apply for an Irish passport straight off without going through any kind of claiming citizenship process. Provided of course they have a parent or grandparent who was also an Irish citizen at the time of their birth.

No, they are as Irish as they would be if born in the south, they don't have to claim, they just are.
Yes, you would think so, but unfortunately no, that doesn’t seem to be the case.

By birth they are British citizens - even if they don’t identify as British - as opposed to Irish citizens, or both. Many people do think this goes against the spirit of the GFA. There have been a number of court cases, Emma de Souza’s for example. They do seem to actively have to claim citizenship by getting a passport. My kids, on the other hand, are in ROI without any passports but they are still Irish citizens.

See point 3 in the link here too.
www.irishlegal.com/articles/analysis-ni-court-of-appeal-upholds-automatic-british-nationality-for-ni-citizens

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