Ireland is a hard place to live

[Mooshamoo]

Just watching the video of the black child being not given a medal by Irish gymnastics.

I was wondering if there is anyone else on here on craicnet, who is not Irish, living in Ireland. What your experiences are.

I think that Ireland can be a very hard place to live if you are not fully white and fully irish.

I'm half Irish. I was bullied all the way through school for not having an Irish surname. Then when I grew up and lived in the same small town, all of the same girls from my school were living in that town. And as adults they refused to talk to me.

I see the women who are fully Irish, being popular , having great lives.

To be totally acceptable and popular in ireland, you have to have a rich family, brothers/father who play gaa etc.

All the rich girls in my school hung around together. And again as adults all the rich Irish women hung around together in small town Ireland.

If you were foreign, from a single parent family, seen as poor, you were not accepted at all.

And it's who you know

I think this makes Ireland a very difficult place to live

Okay, as someone else said, let's meet in tbw middle. I hope that you have a nice evening @Sakura7

Yes I have to say, as one of the very few non Irish people on this thread, who has lived in Ireland for a long time, that defensiveness is something I’ve encountered a lot from Irish people. It’s here on this thread.

I’m saying that as someone who has an Irish husband and also some of my own family.

I do think that a lot of Ireland isn’t all that welcoming and being an outsider is tough. On the surface, it is more friendly and welcoming than many places, but I found below that surface are many barriers. Of course it depends on who you are with, many of my Irish friends and family are lovely, welcoming and great. But even they would agree that there can be a real distrust and lack of integration.

It’s got a lot more open in recent years, there has been a lot of migration into Ireland and things are changing though. But I did feel it was quite hard on my kids, more than I thought it would be.

By the way OP, I grew up poor, in a small town, with only my parents (no extended family anywhere near us). One parent had mental health issues at a time when these things were not widely understood, so it was far from easy.

We had nothing to do with the GAA.

I don't even have an Irish surname.

I do not remotely fit the mould you've described of the type of person who is 'acceptable' in Ireland, yet I've had a good life.

I'll ask again, why are you staying somewhere you hate for an abusive woman?

@moo if you are so determined to hate IRELAND, we can't help you. But it might be easier if you effed off from a board that's talking about Irish stuff.

Wow. Again, you're proving exactly what im saying by being rude and nasty. You just told me to eff off from the Irish board, even though i live in Ireland.. .

You don't get to control who posts on craicnet or not.

Yes defensiveness is definitely something I've encountered from several Irish people. It's part of the problem.

As an Irish person it is undeniable that there is an issue with racism/xenophabia against English people in Ireland although I think it is a lot better now compared to when I was growing up in the 90's. I would say some of what you described in terms of bullying etc I also went through as an Irish person from a 'poor' family who weren't involved in local sport and living in a small village. I once asked a group of girls I was 'friends' with to get me a bar of choc from the shop and they bought me a tin of dog food so I definitely know where you're coming from. The difference was that I was close enough to Dublin to escape to some extent and meet other people.
I understand you feel you have to stay in Ireland op but you have a long life ahead of you so please find somewhere to go that you will be happier. Could you live and work in Dublin and get some other help for your mum during the week and just help at weekends. Or move to another country - you only get one life. It's so sad that you feel like you don't have a future.
I'm not blaming you for what happened as a child but only you can move on from it and change your future, those people can only hurt you if you let them.

Thanks for sharing your experiences

God, you are a miserable shit stirrer, leave if you hate it.

I think defensiveness and brushing people off contributes to the racism problem in Ireland.

I said I experienced racism in ireland. Your response was ' Ireland is one of the best societies in the world" and your second response to me was "fuck off from the ktish boards then".

That is an immature response.

A more mature in-depth response would be to look at and see what people actually go through in Ireland instead of dismissing them and brushing them off

Again. Guess the nationality! Ye are definitelt proving my point

Thank you so much for that! Yea I'm hoping to get to dublin. I'm sorry to hear that you went through that in small town Ireland..

Do you live in Dublin now?

I swear to god, look up at the beginning of the thread. You're losing yourself here. It's not a good look, you're looking crazy. I empathised, i wondered about solutions. I am a random person who can't do any more. If you hate it so much go home, there really is no other option.

You told me to fuck off from the Irish boards.

Now you said you empathised with me.

That was great empathy.

I don't think me or you have anything more to say to each other . I won't engage with you again

That poster tried hard to engage with you and show kindness, but clearly became exasperated.

You're guilty of the very thing you're accusing Irish people of.

@Mooshamoo I did live in Dublin for many years but live in the UK now - sometimes I think I would like to move home but my family DH, kids) is english and I am put off by how I see english people being treated.

Definitely get to Dublin and socialise and make some friends and have a good life - you deserve it.

What's the Irish boards? I'm sorry if i forget but do quote me. I'm on a few irish boards. And i swear a bit.

Thank you. I'm happy that you are happy where you are now. Have a lovely evening

Don't care

Waiting for my quote.

Haha I feel like I'm argued out. I'm not against you. We can make peace in the middle of you want.

*in the middle

Well no. You can't randomly accuse me of something that i clearly didn't do and wander off. That is not on.

I guess the peace talks are off.

You said to me:
@moo if you are so determined to hate IRELAND, we can't help you. But it might be easier if you effed off from a board that's talking about Irish stuff."

I said that you told me to fuck off from Irish boards.

Now you're saying that you didn't say it?

Yes, i have no problem with that post. I still don't. I'm Irish and proud to be Irish. I spoke to your troubles previously, you didn't respond. For whatever reason, you seem to need to hate irish people. If you dislike it so much, just move. I know your mum is here, but realistically, if you went to London, it's no difference than being in Dublin. If that's not pràctical, just stay here and try to minimise your hatred for us. Otherwise, stfu.