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Safe on dart malahide to Greystones late at night

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 13:18

So don't want to drip feed but my ex dh who lives in Dublin wanted to put my dd age 18 on the last dart from malahide to Greystones. When she got off she would have a good 25 min walk alone to my parents house.

I was concerned and said it was not safe for her to travel through all those stations and through Dublin on the dart alone.

Just for background she was harassed on the dart before by a drunk man who sat beside her and was touching her leg and trying to talk to her. She was very upset and also because nobody on the dart helped her even though there were plenty of older women and men in the carriage.

I insisted she stay the night at "h" house and travel down in the morning

Was I unreasonable. H says I was ridiculous.

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 13:19

PS that incident happened in broad daylight in the afternoon about a year ago

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 13:21

Ps I live in Uk with kids. H is in Dublin.

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 13:21

Sorry one more I moved here a couple of years ago

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GlassWall · 30/06/2023 13:28

I wouldn’t think twice at that journey for an 18 year old! I thought when you were talking about her ‘being put’ on the DART, she was much younger.

Would be more concerned with a post-midnight 25 minute walk through territory she presumably doesn’t know — can’t someone collect her at Greystones?

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 13:32

Really? Ah ok . It's just the incident she had before she is nervous. I mean she goes clubbing here in Uk in the city we are in and travels all over but usually with a friend. I suppose I have read about a lot of incidents in the dart late at night with drunks etc and have experienced it myself.

That was the other thing. Both my parents coming up to 90. My dad hardly drives but had said he would pick her up when she was originally gonna be arriving at around 8pm but I couldnt ask him to collect her at 11.45pm I didn't think it was fair on him.

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Anoisagusaris · 30/06/2023 13:34

This.

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 13:34

She could have gotten off at bray and tried to get a taxi there. But again I dunno if it's safe for her to be waiting there so late on her own. I've had a few bad experiences at bray station over the years myself!! She knows her way round we lived there for about 10 years and in Dublin all our lives.

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 13:35

@Anoisagusaris which this did you mean

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betsyannegrey · 30/06/2023 14:27

My dd gets the dart all the time late at night, from town going south. , I just asked her there, she says she feels safe, but I suppose it really depends on how your dd feels. IME, there are loads of security guards on the dart at night. I'd talk to her and remind her that if someone is making her uncomfortable, it's fine to get off at the next station and get into another carriage.

The long walk in Greystones I wouldn't be too happy with. She should either be collected or get a taxi. Does she have the Free Now app, download it and put her dad's bank card into it so she knows she can get a taxi at any point if she feels uncomfortable.

It must be a bit nerve wracking for you, I understand how you feel!

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 16:01

Thanks @betsyannegrey . I mean I used to travel on the dart every day for work and late at night I would even be crossing the city. I did see a few things that made me uncomfortable. I think dd is nervous because of what happened before in the middle of the afternoon. What upset her most was that there were quite a few "mums" sitting near her but they all pretended not to notice. She moved her seat that time and sat opposite a
Woman and the man followed her: and kept on harassing her but this woman ignored everything. Dd was afraid he would follow her again.

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 16:04

It's happened a few times here in Uk too. Getting the bust back from school a man followed her upstairs and sat beside her and started talking to her. Another time she witnessed a knife fight. She's wary.

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youwouldthink · 30/06/2023 16:08

DD19 has been at uni in UCD the past year and uses DART/Dublin bus all times of day and night. Never had issues with it.

Aerielview · 30/06/2023 16:09

I get the Dart regularly, op. I wouldn’t let my daughter get it on her own late at night. No way.

user1469559754 · 30/06/2023 16:16

I wouldn't have any worry about her getting the dart (and I am extremely safety conscious). There is no way I would feel safe myself with a 25 minute walk from the last dart home.

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 17:01

@youwouldthink I'm glad to hear this. I dunno if dd attracts unsavory types . It's happened her a few times. Like I say on dart in the afternoon and here in Uk on buses and trains.

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 17:04

@Aerielview I know I think when you have seen things happen yourself or had them happen to your dd you are more wary. I think it's fine if you're with a friend but she seems vulnerable on her own. Maybe it is safer at night if there are security guards. I suppose it depends where on the dart you are. Ucd students tend to travel in packs I've often noticed

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TaTuirseOrm · 30/06/2023 17:14

Like PPs have said, I wouldn't be worried about the DART, but I would be about the 25 minute walk on her own that late at night. Could her GPs collect her?

Abhannmor · 30/06/2023 17:58

Book a taxi from Bray. I'm surprised there isn't a cab company in Greystones tbh ?

JenniferBarkley · 30/06/2023 19:55

This is the sort of thing I definitely would have done at 18 but wouldn't fancy it now I'm much much older.

FannyFifer · 30/06/2023 20:05

I think the main issue on the Dart is that if u end up with someone dodgy in your carriage then u are kinda stuck as there's no conductor & no way to move between carriages.

EarringsandLipstick · 30/06/2023 20:08

No issue with the DART; the 25 minute walk is an issue, depending on where exactly that takes her.

But at 18, no-one is 'putting her' on anything!

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Ceci03 · 30/06/2023 22:06

It's funny everyone is saying the dart is grand all the way from malahide to Greystones late at night. It would be very empty going into Dublin surely? Just did a poll of my friends and all have witnessed incidents on the dart. I feel it's fine at rush hour but there can be trouble when it's half empty. Personally I'd feel safe walking round Greystones on my own but yeh am not comfortable with dd walking on her own .

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Aerielview · 30/06/2023 16:09

I get the Dart regularly, op. I wouldn’t let my daughter get it on her own late at night. No way.

I agree.
Also that long walk from Greystones station.

bythebanksof · 01/07/2023 10:22

I'm in Dublin for work reasons a few days per month. Work location is city centre, but I typically stay in Bray and use DART (I have a long term setup with a B&B, parking, etc.). Personally I find the DART OK when I'm typically going to Bray, which is 7-8PM, but I really don't like it later. Nothing bad has ever happened to me, but I've seen some really bad behaviour.

Depending on the route, I'd also be concerned about a long walk post-midnight. The chances of anything bad happening are really small. But working in legal profession for 30+ years has made me very wary.

I think you are 100% correct to be concerned.

DublinBlowIn · 02/07/2023 18:17

Not a bloody chance would I let my actual 18 yr old DD who lives in Dublin do that trip.

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