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Am I making up a maths term?

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hariseldonscalculator · 30/09/2022 19:09

So I recall from being taught maths that you describe an expression in brackets as follows,

2x(y+1)

2x upon y+1

so upon means enclose in brackets

English DH says that he has never heard of this and that it’s wrong. Have I misremembered this? Or was it a rural thing?

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Benjispruce4 · 30/09/2022 19:11

News to me too.

MadeinBelfast · 30/09/2022 19:18

I've definitely heard it said like that 🙂

hariseldonscalculator · 30/09/2022 19:31

Interesting @MadeinBelfast. I went to school in Lisburn so maybe it’s an Antrim thing?

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DeeofDenmark · 30/09/2022 19:47

i am English and have a maths degree but that is new to me.

MadeinBelfast · 30/09/2022 20:14

hariseldonscalculator · 30/09/2022 19:31

Interesting @MadeinBelfast. I went to school in Lisburn so maybe it’s an Antrim thing?

Could be! I've heard it said that way a lot although to me the upon means 'multiply by' rather than 'put in brackets'.

hariseldonscalculator · 30/09/2022 20:57

In that example above you do multiply them because it’s in brackets so same thing. I shall tell him it’s an Antrim thing.

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DownNative · 19/10/2022 16:13

I went to school in Belfast and never once heard it expressed like that! Pretty sure that's something that's come from yourself somehow. 🤷‍♂️

NotThereNow · 27/10/2022 10:46

Old thread, but went to school in Co Armagh/Down and used "upon" early 90s.

yodaforpresident · 27/10/2022 16:13

Well I am from Co Armagh but went to school in Lisburn so maybe that’s where it’s from?

BigFatLiar · 27/10/2022 16:21

2x upon y+1

Would be 2x/(y+1) surely

ErrolTheDragon · 27/10/2022 16:21

Are you sure it wasn't something like 2x/(y+1)? I'm English, here I'm pretty sure I've heard 'upon' used to mean 'divided by' , which makes some sense the way division is often written but obviously the opposite mathematically!

septembersapphire7 · 27/10/2022 16:26

I learnt it that way but brackets were “into” and division was “upon”

in your example it would have been 2x into y+1
2x upon y+1 would be 2x/y+1

NotThereNow · 27/10/2022 16:53

I remember it as upon, open bracket = multiply by.

Probably teachers did DipEd/PGCE in same place (UU)

yossell · 27/10/2022 17:00

Am English, teach and work in maths, and I've never heard of upon used that way. I think I have heard it used to express fractions: 2 upon 4, 2 over 4: are both the fraction: 2/4. And this can be understood as division: the result of dividing 2 by 4.

BigFatLiar · 27/10/2022 17:07

Its ages (and ages) since I did sums but surely
2x(y+1) is 2xy + 2x
Which is different to 2x upon (y+1)

JenniferBarkley · 27/10/2022 17:16

From Dublin, mathematician - I've heard it but wouldn't use it myself.

Have never seen upon to mean division, it's making me twitchy for some reason.

BigFatLiar · 27/10/2022 17:48

hariseldonscalculator · 30/09/2022 19:09

So I recall from being taught maths that you describe an expression in brackets as follows,

2x(y+1)

2x upon y+1

so upon means enclose in brackets

English DH says that he has never heard of this and that it’s wrong. Have I misremembered this? Or was it a rural thing?

OH (physicist) says humpty dumpty would say that when he uses a word it means whatever you want it to mean.
If you've been taught that upon means enclose in brackets then fair enough but he would say that 2 upon 3 is two thirds
2

  • = 2/3
3 And not 2(3) But then again it simply depends on how you've been taught.
yodaforpresident · 27/10/2022 18:41

I’m glad that some others have heard as it means that I didn’t just make it up! My grandfather called homework ‘ecker’ so I suppose it could just be something like that.

Apileofballyhoo · 31/10/2022 09:12

Ecker is just short for exercises. Ecca in Cork.

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