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Moving to Dublin

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Honnomushi · 19/05/2022 06:43

My husband has been offered a office transfer to the Dublin branch of his office and we are trying to decide whether to accept it. We know the cost of living and housing is going to be higher but maybe the quality of life may be better?

We have 2 children 9 and 6 so our biggest concern is finding school places and which areas surrounding Dublin will be best to narrow our search. OH will be working in central Dublin so needs to be commutable. Which areas are we likely to get school places? Are there areas to avoid? We currently live in a urban suburb which is quite cosmopolitan so looking for something similar. We are a little worried the children may be subject to anti English sentiment, is that something that we need to take into account?

Thanks for any advice!

OP posts:
StaceysmomandIhavegotitgoinon · 23/05/2022 14:13

Every city in the world has dicey parts.

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 23/05/2022 14:16

StaceysmomandIhavegotitgoinon · 23/05/2022 14:13

Every city in the world has dicey parts.

Well. duh, yeah. Just pointing out to the previous poster who feels safe at all times, that some parts are safer than others.

CupidStunt22 · 23/05/2022 14:21

And what show were you going to OConnell st then?

CupidStunt22 · 23/05/2022 14:21

Was pp going to, I mean

Needsomeadvice33 · 23/05/2022 15:10

@LookItsMeAgain
Lol you sound stressed. Living in Dublin will do that to you.
Don't worry, you also can leave and move a far superior country 🤣. Just winding you up, I'm not as angry a person as you seem to be.

On a serious note, I will give some explanations.
Some of it related to my work as a nurse and mainly comparing living standards to Scotland.
So I was paid less in Ireland (didn't even pay into a pension there, did so in Scotland and still made less in ireland!). They charge a bit more tax in Ireland than they do in Scotland and you get no public services for it!
Their equivalent of income tax was higher
The equivalent of NI was similar
They had an extra con of a tax called USC that took about an extra 150- 200 euro off me I think, that doesn't exist in scotland.
As a nurse we all had to work 2 UNPAID hours per week as per some government agreement in response to the nursing crisis that was supposed to last only a few years but surprise surprise was still going on. This doesn't happen in scotland. I don't know if that's still happening in Ireland or not.

The cost of food was astronomical compared to what I was used to in scotland, especially fruit and veg.
As were the rents. Cars are extortionate and they have an import tax to prevent you getting one from the UK for cheaper. The government have thought of everything to screw its citizens over.
The inability to seperate Church from state is just far too apparent in day to day life. They were trying to repeal the 8th when I was there and it was never off the radio/TV and when you come from a country that has had free and safe access to abortions for a long time it just felt like the dark ages.
I had never once been asked my religion when living in scotland and was constantly asked this in Ireland which is just laughable and innappropriate. People also refused to accept atheism as an answer which was just bizarre to me, like they would try to argue with me that I had to have a religion usually by then asking my parents religion. I have never experienced that in Scotland.
I feel a lot of middle age/older people have very backwards attitudes compared to what I'm used to, but this was not the same for younger people.

In scotland I am now an ANP on a very good salary (all courses fully funded by the Scottish government). A role that doesn't even exist in Ireland due to healthcare systems being so non progressive and managed by dragons.
I have made 6 figures profit on property in the 3 years since returning home and now own a lovely >100 year old large detached sandstone proprty in a very desirable area in a nice city, which I was able to put a large deposit down on.
A nurse in Ireland would never achieve these things in a few short years as the career and property opportunities just do not exist!
And judging by this thread things sound even worse on the property front compared to when I lived there (so doesn't help your 2016 is outdated argument lol).
For the less tax I pay here compared to Ireland I have:
Fully funded education to masters level, literally haven't paid a penny which has enabled me to become a senior nurse by age 28 on a very good salary and now I only work 30 hours but could afford to drop lower (also my breaks are paid, which they weren't in ireland) with a government pension. I can also do well paid ANP locum work which wouldn't be available to me in Ireland.
NHS and free prescriptions.
Free nursery hours -30hrs.
Much cheaper food, cars, though now there's obviously a cost of living crisis so that's changing I admit.
I don't pay a private company to have my bins emptied lol I couldn't understand that.

Genuinely the only benefits of Ireland are: you don't need an annual MOT and it's less cold but I definately think it rains just as much. Literally that's it.
Your government completely screws you all over and I think you are all just institutionalised to it now. Instead of criticising your government you just get annoyed at people who point out how badly you are treated by them. It's bizarre how Irish people are so patriotic.
I happily accept the faults of scotland, there are many so I don't understand this.
On a whole Dublin is attractive enough but the public transport is the worse I have ever seen for a city. 2 LUAS lines lol who designed that!

It doesn't sound to me like anything is better, if anything it sounds worse, as at least when I lived there you could find rental property easy enough.

You should all be more annoyed at the amount of tax you pay there and you get nothing in return! It's baffling to me.
I once had a uti when I lived there. The gp vosit was 50 euro and prescription was 34 euro.
I could go to the pharmacy in scotland and be given the same drug for £0 by the pharmacist and again I must reiterate, I PAY LESS TAX HERE!
Please someone tell me that universal social charge is not still a thing there?

Anyway I'm not trying to annoy Irish people I'm simply being honest. This is merely my opinions based on my experiences.

P.S Scottish men are far superior to Irish men🤣

cultkid · 23/05/2022 15:12

Malahide
Howth
Sutton

I was raised in Malahide it's lovely

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 23/05/2022 15:23

I lived in Glasgow for a long time and it's a great city in many ways, but I can tell you it feels like the dark ages there every time one of those (many) Orange marches paraded down the street in my neighbourhood. Lots going for it but some sections of society determined to hold it back.

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 23/05/2022 15:24

And as for Scottish men? I wouldn't say they're superior to Irish men. Pretty similar in my experience.

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 23/05/2022 15:27

Actually one big difference is that Irish men are taller. Was struck by how comparatively short men are in Glasgow.

EarringsandLipstick · 23/05/2022 15:39

There are lovely places in Ireland to live. Dublin isn't one of them unless as my PIL say - you are a very very high earner and can afford to live on the coastline.

Honestly the comments on this thread 🙄

I don't live on the coastline, sadly. I am also not a 'very very high earner' - I earn a respectable amount but am a single parent to 3 so it doesn't go far.

A lot about my life in Dublin is lovely - beaches within 30 mins, Phoenix Park on my doorstep, lots to do, great schools nearby, really good sports for me & kids

It's just nonsense what some people are writing here. Dublin has many suburbs, and most are like suburbs anywhere else. Absolutely there are lovely parts of Dublin I wish I could live in; but where I am isn't too shabby

EarringsandLipstick · 23/05/2022 15:40

Jet I said 'could be'

Needsomeadvice33 · 23/05/2022 15:41

I agree with your opinion of glasgow, I would never live there.
My husband is superior lol
A lot of my Irish female friends are with men who are afraid to commit/get married. This seems to be a running theme.
It's common to get married mid to late 20s in Scotland. Most of my Scottish friends are married.
Again, just my observations.

elizabethdraper · 23/05/2022 15:53

HandScreen · 23/05/2022 09:30

And you have no clue - there are a handful of non-religious schools in Ireland - in the UK, almost every school is non-denominational.

Err......I think you will find there are a slight more than a handful every area in Dublin has their own educate together school
These are all within 5km of each other

glasnevin x 2,
finglas x 1,
Ashtown x 1
Castleknock x 1
Cabra x 2

They are all heavily oversubscribed however they exist everywhere and more are being built every year

Choopi · 23/05/2022 15:54

There is pros and cons to everywhere isn't there and what we value in a place will be different. For instance I don't care about the height of the men where I live but I am looking for a garden, for quietness, lots of places to be in nature and do outdoor activities. It will depend on what the OP is looking for out of life as to what will work for her and her family.

My kids go to gaelscoil/Gaelcholaiste and I would be lying if I said I hadn't noticed a wee bit of anti English sentiment, ds talks about his history teacher being particularly anti english but I don't know if this is amplified because they are all Gaeilgeoirs and very proud of their Irish culture and heritage. On the other hand both primary and secondary are multidenominational schools so religion hasn't featured in their lives at all(obviously they learn about different religions but no one cares what religion anyone is), I can't remember the last time I was asked about religion, we don't have our kids baptised or anything and it has never been brought up by anyone as being odd.

The idea that people would shriek at brown people is also very dated, I live in a small town in the West of Ireland and every time you go to the supermarket you would see people of all colours. I live in a small estate of 18 houses and 2 black families live on the estate. As the kids school is an Irish school it is perhaps less diverse than others but out of my dds small friend group, for instance, one has a mother from the Philippines, one has two English parents, one a german mother and the mart is the most buzzing place in town so hardly a cosmopolitan town.

Ireland is expensive there is no getting away from that but the OP seems to know that already.

HandScreen · 23/05/2022 15:59

@elizabethdraper That's my definition of a handful. Educate Together schools make up 2.8% of primary schools in Ireland.

Radyward · 23/05/2022 17:26

The bus routes in Dublin are making people pull their hair out !
transport for ireland is nothing to transport for London. Its a joke they mimiced TFL.no comparison.
Living in lucan to get to the city is 2 buses now and real time is another joke. Its a nightmare getting a gp in Lucan or Meath
. Dublin is a great city but committing to a bad bus service will drive your husband mad.one place I would consider is Maynooth links to the city by Train / crappy bus service. University town. Great restaurants and bars - a shopping centre and amenities!! Cheaper than luas / dart line areas.

Dublin is crazy expensive for housing. Paying for health care / gp/ medication / travel definately 150k would be great but really anything over 110k euro you would need to cover all on one salary per yr. Its mad how expensive it is. Every week its worse as inflation is gone mad. If i had absolutely no family connectin to Ireland i would weigh up the pros and cons before coming. For example my husbabd and myself have a combined income of 6k per month after tax.we have a mortgage and 3 kids in part time child care. Its enough but we live frugally . My DH works in N ireland and gets alcohol up there ( the odd bottle of wine ) and stocks up on dishwasher tabs.its not easy and us both earning !!!

mathanxiety · 23/05/2022 19:26

Almost every primary school in the UK is well and truly denominational. The CoE is a religious denomination Hmm

PleasantBirthday · 23/05/2022 19:27

Ultimately, Ireland isn't in the UK and doesn't have to be like the UK. We're not a backwater of anywhere else and that suits us just fine.

mathanxiety · 23/05/2022 19:30

@eggandonion, your commuting neighbours may well be relatives of mine Smile

HandScreen · 23/05/2022 19:38

mathanxiety · 23/05/2022 19:26

Almost every primary school in the UK is well and truly denominational. The CoE is a religious denomination Hmm

What are you talking about? The large majority or schools in the UK are non-denominational. There are separate, denominational CoE schools.

Did you think that the normal state schools were religious in the UK? Because they are in Ireland? You were wrong.

StaceysmomandIhavegotitgoinon · 23/05/2022 20:01

Every person I know in England says catholic schools are best there and sends their kids there. I couldnt care less about religion and mine in ET for both primary and secondary schools but we never have conversations about religion anyway. Im atheist myself although raised catholic but its not a conversation i have. Other half is NI and never asked down here either.

mathanxiety · 23/05/2022 20:02

@HandScreen, you need to order yourself a copy of the School Standards and Framework Act of 1998 and study the sections where collective daily acts of worship of a broadly Christian nature are mandated.

HandScreen · 23/05/2022 20:19

StaceysmomandIhavegotitgoinon · 23/05/2022 20:01

Every person I know in England says catholic schools are best there and sends their kids there. I couldnt care less about religion and mine in ET for both primary and secondary schools but we never have conversations about religion anyway. Im atheist myself although raised catholic but its not a conversation i have. Other half is NI and never asked down here either.

That's an Irish myth

HandScreen · 23/05/2022 20:19

mathanxiety · 23/05/2022 20:02

@HandScreen, you need to order yourself a copy of the School Standards and Framework Act of 1998 and study the sections where collective daily acts of worship of a broadly Christian nature are mandated.

FGS, you are really clutching 😂

StaceysmomandIhavegotitgoinon · 23/05/2022 20:35

HandScreen · 23/05/2022 20:19

That's an Irish myth

Told to me by English family and friends? Doubtful.

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