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How to find where my family are buried in Dublin

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Lucysmessages · 22/07/2021 19:49

I am asking if anyone can pls suggest a website/resource that lists all burials and grave locations for those buried in Dublin over the last 120yrs?

I am in the UK and trying to trace my family tree. I know where my Nan and Granda are buried as , i attended both their funerals decades ago. But, i am trying to go back further. I have family on both North and south sides of Dublin but mainly descended from south, although later recent generations did move over to the North side but , not the older ones. My mum has been here in England since 1968 and married my Dad ( also Irish) . I have now traced all Dad's side , that threw up a lot of secrets that admittedly ,i see they would have like to have been kept.

Now, i am trying to focus on Mums side. Mum is not helping me at all.

If i can find the graves, i should be able to find the parish church and then the death certs and then poss marriage and birth certs to help me trace back.

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honeyrider · 24/07/2021 00:02

This might be helpful but some charge

www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/irish-burial-records.html

The following is a site I came across by chance when I googled my grandad's name, he was born in 1900 in Ireland and had an unusual name but his family tree was on it going back to 1700 so you can imagine my shock and delight to find all that information. The detail is unreal, even had photographs of the house my grandad grew up in, photos of the area, the ship's log of the convict.

It was researched in Australia as an ancestor was sent as a convict to Australia, it even has the descendants from that convict to this current time. You could see if your ancestors name are on it.

www.roots-boots.net/ft/names.html

Decorhate · 24/07/2021 08:23

To be honest it is probably easier to find the records online than find the graves. Even if you could identify the graveyard, I don’t know how you would then find the grave. But maybe burial records are kept, I’ve never looked into that.

I’ve found irishgenealogy.ie a great source of information

ShoppingBasket · 24/07/2021 08:27

I think it would be easier to go through the census on line to find out where they were when living, then you will find death certificate. Once you have located the area, all churches will have records of graveyards and where they are buried. My local church actually has it inside their door.
That's my understanding anyway but maybe there's an easier way!

SwimmingOnEggshells · 28/07/2021 17:31

Glasnevin cemetery has a search engine, it's a huge graveyard so if they're from Dublin there's a possibility they're buried there.

Deansgrange and Shanganagh search engine here: www.dlrcoco.ie/en/cemeteries/burial-records

Lucysmessages · 12/08/2021 21:12

Thank you all so very much. I have found most of the immediate family ( on my mums side) in Glasnevin. There is a family plot. Inchicore side family are all there.

I still have some North side family to find. Family born in the south Dubs but , moved over the North Side in the 60's and 70's. I am now searching for family on the North side. Looking to where the North side are buried?

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Lucysmessages · 12/08/2021 21:34

I am specifically looking for churches and grave yards in Baldoyle, Portmarnknock and Malahide.

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LadyEloise1 · 23/08/2021 09:08

Do d you have any success @Lucysmessages

Lucysmessages · 23/08/2021 10:44

@LadyEloise1 Not yet with the North Side ones. I have been away also so, not had much time since i posted. I think i will be better off having a look in person with these ones. I will do better actually going to all the cemeteries and then will be able to talk to the parish priests too if i need more info. I suspect some of what i am hoping to discover will be more word of mouth than documented iyswim.

My mum is very unhelpful vague about it all which suggests to me there are things in the family history that have been hidden. I only recently found out my parents came to England very quickly in the late 60's. Diff to what mum always said. I also found my hospital birth records there was a card/record in them, my baby discharge notes , that stated i was my mums 2nd pregnancy. But, I am the oldest of my siblings and her 1st pregnancy? I have asked my mum, she says she has no idea, they must have made a mistake and to not be annoying her. I also now see from their marriage cert that i was born 4 mths after they got married. It took me ages to find that as i was looking at all the wrong dates. Again, mum says they must have made a mistake and that all her wedding records and photos were destroyed in a flood! My family In Ireland are equally as "helpful" with similar memory issues. It is frustrating as the holier than thou standards my mum has expected from me and my sisters all our lives is at odds now with her own and she has lied to us for decades. We were always told if we ever got pregnant ( not married) we would be put in a home and they meant it. It put the fear of god in us. Very cruel. I will only find out family truths by discovering them myself , as i am finding.

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LadyEloise1 · 23/08/2021 15:27

@Lucysmessages
Perhaps your mother's first child was adopted ? She may have had to give the baby up or it may have died.
Could the fear of her daughters being put in a mother and baby home stem from what happened to her ?
Could it be she doesn't want any questions because the memories are too painful or a past she'd rather forget - a rape ?
She really doesn't want the past resurrected Sad
Tread softly.
My dh's birth mother told nobody for 50 years( (except her own dh - her children didn't know ).
She's dead now but her own siblings don't know about dh.

Notaroadrunner · 23/08/2021 15:36

Wow, it seems your mother possibly did have a child before you. As for the marriage record being wrong, if you have the Marriage Cert then it's correct. She's clearly not willing to go back and deal with her past and that's why she won't help you.

www.interment.net/data/ireland/dublin/malahide/mal_ak.htm

The above website covers Dublin graveyards. You pick a graveyard and then you can look for names.

Notaroadrunner · 23/08/2021 15:37

You could always to an ancestry DNA test to see if an older sibling might have done one too and matches with you.

Lucysmessages · 23/08/2021 17:24

@Notaroadrunner Thank you very much for the link. 😊

@LadyEloise1 I suspect there may be another sibling but still in the family somewhere? Possibly now my "cousin" or child of a family friend? Maybe even a pregnancy that did not reach term/lost early. I have also done the DNA ancestry swab, awaiting that. The families are huge. 8 aunts and uncles on one side, 5 on another, some passed now. Yet no one seems to know anything.

It was actually my mum used to threaten us with a home if we got pregnant. She was never particularly motherly, put it that way. My mum was not put in a home as far as i can see. Unless she was when she arrived in England? But who would have arranged that? All the family are in Ireland. I have nothing to suggest that so far. Mum was put on a flight out of Dublin to England, i know that date as fact to be in 1968, where my Dad was then waiting, he came over first. It all then goes quiet.. They then got married. as per marriage cert, some 3- 4 yrs later after arriving in England , in late 1971, 4 mths before i was born in 72. There are approx 4 missing years in England.

I don't why she is lying about all of this. The facts are there. To say her marriage certs and my birth records have mistakes on them is ludicrous. My grandparents are long since dead and she left Ireland 53 yrs ago. So weird, she is so holy and judgemental of others , at mass every 5 mins but very economical with her own truth and often unkind to her own girls. I cannot see where mum was 1968-1972, i know she was in England but that is all i know, i have an old London residential address for 1971. It was on my baby discharge notes so that was the address she gave at the time i was born. I now know it was a kind of bedsit place at the time but now converted back into a million pound family home, as i went there and talked to the current owners. Very frustrating all the lies and secrecy.

Mum is very comfortably off now but that was not always the case when we were young and she often refers to the no blacks, no dogs , no Irish when she came here first. I always assumed she did not want to acknowledge the past because of poverty and racism for Jamaicans and Irish but i think it is more than this.

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Lucysmessages · 23/08/2021 17:32

@Notaroadrunner i have done a DNA ancestry. My Dad was, what can only at best be described as , an Irish Rover. God only knows what this will throw up. Even my cousins in ( rural ) Ireland agree and are supporting me in this. They too are tracing our family tree but direct from Ireland. They have also met a wall of silence. There is huge secrecy in Irish families. It makes it difficult for younger generations to establish truths and trace family trees.

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Notaroadrunner · 23/08/2021 17:48

So true. Dh was adopted. He has reunited with his birth family so I've been able to do up his birth family tree. I reckon your mother possibly arrived to U.K.pregnant if it's all so hush hush. I wonder if it's possible to look up births in the area she lived in 1968 with her surname? Baby and mother's surname would be the same, indicating an unmarried mother. Maybe the DNA results will shed some light on things for you. The silence from your parents will only make you want to search for more information.

Lucysmessages · 23/08/2021 18:13

@Notaroadrunner thank you. I am so pleased to read that your DH has found his birth family.

I do not know where mum was living in 68-70 but i do have her maiden name. Is it possible for me to search all UK records from that time using her maiden name with a generic UK search? I suspect she was in either England or possibly Wales ( as there is a ferry from Dun Laoghaire that my Dad often used when taking his car back and forth to Ireland. I know my Dad came into Holyhead in 1968
before mum came over. Its possible they were in Wales for a time.

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