HSE removes "women" from cervical screening pages

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Stumbled across this on twitter. The page has recently been revised, it's all "people with a cervix".
twitter.com/Salwicklow/status/1305967737563422720?s=20

It's highly likely that the supposedly inclusive language came about through lobbying. Whose attention do we need to bring this to to get the HSE to add women back in? It needs more traction on Irish Twitter...

www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/cervical-screening/when-you-should-have-cervical-screening/who-should-have-cervical-screening.html

Link to the HSE pages in question.

When you read the whole thing, its People and TransMen. What is wrong with Women and TransMen ?

Yes. After everything that's happened with cervical check, I find this bloody insulting to women. The words woman and women are mentioned in thousands of other places on the HSE website, this has been deliberately done and if women don't stand up it won't stop here. What's next, erase "woman" from the pregnancy or abortion pages? Actually I think it might already be absent from the latter. Are Irish women ok with this? I don't think so, but I don't think most of us are aware - yet.

There is an easy to use feedback function. I've highlighted the anyone with section and asked for clarification in plain English of who are these people with cervixes.

Great. The original tweeter said they've stopped answering her and consider the matter closed so they need to hear it from many, many more women that we, the 99.99% affected by cervical cancer, are not ok with it.

The topic was on liveline there! Worth listening back to.

Well done the two Sarahs!

Just listened back to liveline. Well done the Sarahs!

What was said on liveline? What was the general consensus?

www.rte.ie/radio/utils/share/radio1/21836442

This link to the exact Liveline segment was posted over on the other thread in Feminism. It's really worth a listen!

And as for referring to children as they instead of he or she. Call me a dinosaur but I find that difficult.

This was where the woman querying the missing ‘woman’ was called a maggot. Then the person who said/typed it said they’d never called anyone that but there was screenshots?

We aren’t dealing with Einstein’s here...

Aargh, I should be in bed!

There are developments in maggot-gate, but beware, none of it makes any sense...

Noah, the person who called Sarah a maggot, but it was a typo for bigot, now - and allegedly always has, including making representations to the HSE - advocates for the use of "women and trans men", that is, the exact thing Sarah was asking him to support, in the DM exchange in which he called her a maggot.

twitter.com/pganderson/status/1306704864265646081?s=20

Someone should be be dealing with the general public now should they?

Bigot,
maggot,

Nope, even my autocorrect doesn’t try to change them.

Still don’t know why they called Sarah ‘anything‘ when they queried something that they themselves ‘agree’ with.

Shouldn’t. Shouldn’t be be dealing with the public.

It weds to be nipped in the bud now, the new head of cervical check seems like a sensible woman I’m going to contact her directly

Will do same Carriemac.

I know there have been links to Jo's Trust findings on the fwr thread, but another very simple and useful reference is from NALA on health literacy- "People working in healthcare play an important part in improving health literacy and numeracy by communicating more clearly and making information more accessible to patients."

I've just given feedback on the "what is cervical screening page" on the hse website. You can highlight a section and provide direct feedback.

Is the maggot calling person in the HSE or just a random twitter person?

Its Noah Halpin, I think, a transgender healthcare campaigner who set up This Is Me.

Why is it always women? Still refers to men on the prostate cancer page.

Also the firdt bit text under "Trans men and cervical screening" is just a repeat of the text about that is written as "you". (You being "Anyone with a cervix", I'm pretty confident that includes trans men.)

I do think th ed information under "When trans men with a cervix will be invited for cervical screening" is needed. It's quite specific information- though the information on the second page for trans women should be there too. As all of it is about having the correct details on record.

Oddly, the text about "If you were born without a cervix" actually refers to women.

No one ever answers that little mystery of life do they?

www.gopetition.com/petitions/include-the-word-women-in-hse-cervical-screening-information.html

Hi, cervix-havers, here's a petition for anyone who hasn't seen it yet!

I will give that petition 3 days before it is removed!

I don't know, SerenityNow, is anybody at all still seriously arguing the opposite case? Even TENI have wordily returned to their position of last Thursday after a little wobble at the weekend and conceded that the word woman is acceptable

The HSE may dig their heels in but who could say there's anything objectionable about the petition?

I'm struggling to see the problem with 'people with cervixes' vs 'women, girls (not including those who don't have cervixes for any reason), trans men and non-binary people'. It's a lot quicker to write.