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John Hume RIP

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EarlofEggMcMuffin · 03/08/2020 10:48

I am so so sad to hear about the passing of John Hume.
What a giant of a man.
His brave work has influenced the life of every person on the island of Ireland- and of many farther afield who wont even know that his work saved lives.

Ar dheis de go raibh a anam dilis

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Taytocrisps · 03/08/2020 11:12

Very sad news this morning. He worked tirelessly for the people of Northern Ireland. All of Ireland is mourning his loss today. Condolences to his family and friends.

serialreturner · 03/08/2020 11:27

I'm devastated. Weirdly over involved - but that man was an absolute trojan and worked for us all.

Ar dheis de go raibh a anam and God Rest

Cleebope2 · 03/08/2020 11:31

Fabulous and fearless peace worker, RIP.

XFPW · 03/08/2020 11:33

So deeply saddened to hear this news this morning. Just as saddened as I was to hear his wife say a couple of years ago that he had no memory of the work he’d done - the GFA, the Sunningdale agreement etc. Such a giant of a man - so sad to lose him to dementia. Such a cruel disease. Our wee country is a better place for having him in it.

DonkeySkin · 03/08/2020 14:37

Even though he won the Nobel Peace Prize, I don't think John Hume has been properly recognised for what he did in bringing about the end of the Troubles, which was one of the world's most intractable conflicts and could have gone on for generations more.

While others deserve credit (Mo Mowlam, Bertie Ahern, John Major, David Trimble, and yes even Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness), it was really Hume's achievement, the result of years of hard, thankless and often dangerous work (he was on loyalist hit lists for years, the IRA discussed assassinating him and at one point firebombed his house) in establishing a dialogue with Sinn Fein when the British and Irish political establishments were insisting that they wouldn't talk to them until the IRA laid down its arms.

It was Hume who was the go-between, who was dogged and sometimes virtually alone in his belief that a political solution could be found, and would only be found through dialogue.

I think this came from his deep understanding of the mindset that drove the IRA, and his knowledge that Republicans were as sick of the conflict as everyone else. They were looking for a reason to end it (as were the Loyalists), but the 'sunk cost' fallacy made the price of surrender too high. Hume managed to persuade the British that they needed to offer the Provos a way to save face, to make it look like they weren't surrendering but striking a deal, which meant that their 25 year paramilitary war hadn't just been a pointless waste of life (which it definitely was).

He was that rare combo: a brilliant politician, and a brave, humane and principled man.

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 03/08/2020 15:17

Well said Donkey.
I see on Twitter that the Telegraph have been somewhat derisory in their obituary; referencing the "Murphia" in the US and likening him to a "Celtic drunk poet" - has anyone seen it?

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RuggerHug · 03/08/2020 16:59

Wonderfully said Donkey.

GiantKitten · 03/08/2020 17:04

He was a great man. Lots of lovely personal tributes on Twitter this morning. Very sad.

Tony Blair gave an incredible tribute on World at One. It kind of brought back the hope of those days for a few moments.

GiantKitten · 03/08/2020 17:12

Almost the whole of the first 20 mins or so is about him.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000lddw

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 03/08/2020 17:40

Oh lovely Giant thanks for linking to that.

I have spent today drilling into DC that this man has had a major influence on the way they live their lives.
They may never really understand the enormity of what he did.

He and Austin Curry were threatened by both sides; badly bullied, as were their families.
Brave big men.

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bellinisurge · 03/08/2020 19:24

I grew up seeing tiny beacons of hope like him on telly when everything else was just so sad and scary.

Iblinkedandiamold · 03/08/2020 19:27

Very sad news today.

XFPW · 03/08/2020 19:48

Very well said @DonkeySkin

fivedogstofeed · 03/08/2020 23:52

Absolutely @DonkeySkin

DoorstoManual · 04/08/2020 00:05

I was lucky enough to meet him, in a political setting (briefly, so briefly, he shook my hand and remembered me from a previous handshake, impressive).

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 04/08/2020 00:09

A true giant of a man who has left the earth a better place than he found it. We are lucky our country knew him.

Condolences to all who knew and loved him.

Excellent post by DonkeySkin.

netflixismysidehustle · 04/08/2020 00:14

twitter.com/aoifegracemoore/status/1290209982793711616?s=21

This thread is full of lovely anecdotes about this amazing man.

Sakura7 · 04/08/2020 00:22

It was emotional watching the coverage. I grew up in the south and was still in my teens when the GFA happened, but I clearly remember as a child the incessant stream of horrors reported on the news. It felt like a never-ending cycle of violence. How John Hume managed to transcend it and bring all sides together is incredible, especially considering the personal and political costs. It's so sad that he didn't get more time to see the fruits of his labour before dementia struck.

As far as I'm concerned he's the greatest Irishman in living memory, and is up there with Mandela and MLK.

LadyEloise · 04/08/2020 08:55

John Hume and Seamus Mallon - giants among men.
Their families deserve great credit too. Supporting the men while they worked tirelessly for peace.
David Trimble and others involved in the Good Friday Agreement including Gerry Adams contributed to peace, albeit a fragile one.
Lives have been saved because of the courage and vision of John Hume.

Inituntiltheend · 04/08/2020 22:55

A legend, true son of Derry and Ireland’s greatest

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