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Elderly Alzheimer patient raped in care home.

18 replies

LadyEloise · 30/07/2020 21:06

Words fail me.
So desperately sad for the poor lady involved. It happened during the Covid19 lockdown so her family were unable to comfort her.

Am I the only one who thinks an 11 year jail sentence with the last year suspended is too lenient ? There will probably be 50% remission on that Sad
There should be a minimum 25 year sentence. The DNA evidence and CCTV evidence was there.
Female politicians of Ireland you are the lawmakers.
Please do something.

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HollowTalk · 30/07/2020 21:13

Oh my god, that's just terrible. I wish I could say it was unbelievable. If that was my mum, Covid or no Covid, I'd be with her.

HollowTalk · 30/07/2020 21:16

My elderly aunt was in a care home until she died aged 100. There were a few male HCPs working there - doing personal care, too. She didn't have dementia and was absolutely mortified to have men showering her and taking her to the toilet. I just don't understand why women in care homes can't insist on having only women caring for them.

HollowTalk · 30/07/2020 21:16

And before anyone say, it's not "just like having a male doctor."

Radyward · 30/07/2020 21:59

Hopefully he will taken care of in the appropriate manner in Mount joy. OmG I totally disagree with men doing personal care on elderly women. He was 52 and no issues with anything like this before. Showed no remorse. Apparently was detached in statements etc. The poor poor woman and her poor family. Its unbelievable how quick it came to court. The book should have been thrown at him. He took advantage of her condition 'not to be found out '. I mean was he going to do it again the next night. Omg it is a truly heinous crime as the judiciary say.

SparkyBlue · 30/07/2020 22:03

I'd say he has done this before. It's absolutely disgusting to think about it. That poor woman. He really picked such a vulnerable victim. No way did this happen only once, he has to have done this before to some other misfortune woman.

honeyrider · 31/07/2020 01:33

I very much doubt this was his first time, only the first time he was caught. It's probably happened to others with dementia.

I hope I never have to go into a home.

LadyEloise · 31/07/2020 14:46

I was listening to a woman on the Joe Duffy Show whose mother is in that home. She is devastated and fearful her mother might be a victim.
I am so sad for all those vulnerable people.

Our politicians are gone on their 6 week holidays so it won't get discussed in the Dáil by some of our more vocal female politicians who might be able to press to strengthen laws to protect women. To make punishments fit the crimes.

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Radyward · 31/07/2020 17:03

Omg I never thought of the other families with mum's as in patients. That is so terrible the stress they are under now. Unreal

Peridot1 · 31/07/2020 17:05

That’s horrific. My mum was in a care home with dementia for five years before she died. I’d hate to think anything like that could have happened to her. They are so so vulnerable.

goatley · 31/07/2020 17:09

It's not a new thing. I know of a case in my area which happened about 9 years ago.

Its awful. Angry

LadyEloise · 31/07/2020 19:14

@goatley
What country ?

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MadamBatty · 01/08/2020 10:19

but but but...we have self id in ireland so even if you could insist on having a woman carer, a man just has to say he feels like a woman & he is one. To question this is transphobic & hateful.

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 01/08/2020 10:54

@MadamBatty

but but but...we have self id in ireland so even if you could insist on having a woman carer, a man just has to say he feels like a woman & he is one. To question this is transphobic & hateful.
Exactly Madam. And the sanctions for being raped by a "woman" are likely to be much less....because of "difficulties" in the perpetrators past and sympathy for his/her "journey to becoming her true self".

YY that may be transphobic, but I am heartily sick of this.

This poor woman, the other staff in the home, the other residents and their families. All will have been affected by this.
None of those women can self-id out of being the object of misogyny and the threat of rape.

I would be shocked if he had gone directly from being a decent employee with no concerns ever about him, and escalated directly to rape.
It is far more likely that he has long been someone who disparaged the residents, and pushed the boundaries of female co-workers.

bythebanksof · 01/08/2020 13:04

Most rapists are serial offenders, it is VERY seldom there is only one victim. In this case it's very likely that there were many more. 11 years is a joke.

Radyward · 01/08/2020 14:34

He will be "looked after " in Mountjoy
(hopefully )
There was a court case lately involving a young girl in a shared ward where an older patient assaulted her and she couldn't reach for the bell. I think it was in a hospital in cork. Only for a nurse walked in and disturbed him you wouldn't know what would have happened . Unreal times. Mixing genders in Hospital wards is just dreadful
I'm sure no patient enjoys it too

bythebanksof · 02/08/2020 14:12

Yes, the case was in CUH (unusually for an incident in a medical context in Ireland) it ended up in court. There was also a reported rape in Bon Secours (Tralee, not Cork), google and you'll find the details. DPP did not proceed with this case.

There is a growing awareness of patient and staff safety, appropriate conduct, etc.

Of course, for those of you not from Cork there was the famous case of a Dr Barry. Well known and highly respected GP. However, if you were a patient of his between 1980 and 1995 then there is a video of your breast/internal exam. This was shocking, unbelievable for many, and without the recordings it probably would not have been public. Again, google if interested!

Basically, my point is this is not new.

bythebanksof · 02/08/2020 14:19

Here is the link to the Barry case www.rte.ie/news/2006/0303/73691-barryj/

I was actually one of his patients in that time period, but not one of 40+selected for the case.

cnoccnoc · 03/08/2020 14:55

In Cork he was widely known as "Stripper Barry" (I found out that a few months after he was my GP). I was late teens/early 20s, never though anything strange at the time, and never felt unsafe or got creepy vibes. However, the typical visit always included taking off your top, and sometimes an internal exam.

At the time I actually considered him a very good GP. A lot of my friends went to him too as regular GP, and jokingly referred to him as Stripper.

When the case did come to the public attention, then it did make me feel uncomfortable, even thought I was not at the time. Does that make sense? Different times?

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