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getting my Irish passport

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SophieofShepherdsBush · 14/10/2016 21:06

Do I have to go through the citizenship application or can I just apply with passport form and supporting documentation?
Im pretty sure im eligible; we live here, my husband is Irish, my granny was Irish, my dad has his Irish passport, my kids were born here.
What's the route to go down? And can not keep my uk passport/citizenship too? Although the way things atr going at thr moment in the uk im not sure I want anything to do with my homeland!

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ByeByeLilSebastian · 15/10/2016 17:24

It's ok, it actually made me laugh Smile

Amalfimamma · 15/10/2016 17:25

Byebye and okok

It doesn't matter if she had a British passport or not, my parents both have British passports as do DSiblings and I have an irish one.

You are an irish citizen

okok I'm sure Jackie Mcdonald sings the sash. But he has an irish passport

And I went abroad many moons ago with some sinn fein members. We went to the basque

Me with my Irish passport and they with their British one 😮

MarDhea · 15/10/2016 17:31

This page on the DFA site tells you all the supporting documents you need to join the Foreign Births Register. Looks like you needs loads, including grandparent's birth cert, marriage cert, death cert if applicable etc.

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SophieofShepherdsBush · 15/10/2016 17:51

Oh god, I'm rubbish at this kind of evidence gathering admin, but I thibk it could be very useful, do I guess I'll have to plough on...thsnks for the link mardhea

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paulapantsdown · 15/10/2016 17:57

I think I have my dads birth cert somewhere, but not my mums. I guess I can get a copy somewhere? I am deffo applying for Irish passports for myself and my two boys. I always used to have both, but was skint one time when the Irish one ran out and never renewed it. I want my sons to have a EU passport.

I suppose if Scotland go for independence, DH will be able to get a Scottish EU passport one day as his parents were Scots!

sycamore54321 · 15/10/2016 18:09

It sounds more complicated than it is. In most instances, you need to trace back to someone born in island of Ireland (including Northern Ireland). And generally if your parent was an Irish citizen at the time you were born, you yourself can access citizenship.

  1. You were born on island of Ireland. You are automatically an Irish citizen regardless of any other additional citizenship you hold. You have been an Irish citizen since the moment of your birth.
  1. You were born elsewhere but your mother or father were born on the island of Ireland. Bingo, same as category 1, you are automatically an Irish citizen and have been since the moment of your birth.

Both category 1 and 2 can just go ahead and apply directly for a passport.

  1. You were born outside of Ireland, and your parent was also born outside Ireland, and only your grandparent was born on the island of Ireland. If you did nothing, you are not yet an Irish citizen. You do however have the right to become an Irish citizen. You do this by applying to be entered on the Foreign Births Register. Once you have been entered on the register, you are an Irish citizen from that date onwards and can now apply for a passport.

For category 3, the date is important. Any children you have who are born outside Ireland after you are entered on the Register can apply themselves for Foreign Birth Registration and become citizens themselves from the date of FBR. But any children you have, who were born abroad before you got FBR, cannot claim any entitlement to Irish citizenship. The chain of citizenship can go on for any number of generations of foreign-born offspring but the parent must have been granted citizenship through FBR before the child is born.

Costacoffeeplease · 15/10/2016 18:35

I got copies of all the documents quite easily from Ireland and Scotland (where my dad and I were both born)

SwedishEdith · 15/10/2016 18:43

The chain of citizenship can go on for any number of generations of foreign-born offspring but the parent must have been granted citizenship through FBR before the child is born.

Oh, thanks for the clarification - frustrating though. Always meant to organise my Irish passport when I was younger and, as ever, never got round to it Sad. If only I qualify, I wonder whether it's worth it? But I probably thought that when I was younger as well...

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SophieofShepherdsBush · 16/10/2016 10:02

So on that website listing required documents it says some originals and some certified copies. Do you have to send the whole lot off? How does that work with an online application?

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Costacoffeeplease · 16/10/2016 10:04

You have to print out the application and send it off, it's not all online

Amalfimamma · 16/10/2016 11:50

SophieofShepherdsBush

you're on the continent aren't you?

hanahsaunt · 16/10/2016 12:00

Dh is Northern Irish. Therefore he holds Irish citizenship. Ds1 was born in Scotland. He, by virtue of Dh, has Irish citizenship. We live in England at present. Were ds1 to apply for an Irish passport and stake his claim, as it were, would he count as an EU student for the purposes of university fees if he were to follow through with his application to Edinburgh university?

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SophieofShepherdsBush · 16/10/2016 12:14

In Ireland amalfi

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Cocolepew · 16/10/2016 12:19

Oh I live in Newtownards ByeBye

Amalfimamma · 16/10/2016 12:21

SophieofShepherdsBush

Don't know why I though you were on the continent

Send them all off to the passport office or if you can take them in yourself. It saves time and momey

Costacoffeeplease · 16/10/2016 12:34

I'm on the continentSmile

Amalfimamma · 16/10/2016 13:31

Costacoffeeplease

I've found the best way for us on the continent is to do everything in person via embassy

If the ladies in the irish embassy in Rome are reading you're all stars

Costacoffeeplease · 16/10/2016 14:03

I'm quite a way from the embassy, and have mobility problems, so not able to travel so I'll have to do it by post

MarDhea · 16/10/2016 17:42

OP I think they expect anyone joining the Foreign Births Register to be outside the country, so all the info is geared that way!

I'd give the Dublin office a quick call to ask - you probably post everything to them. They'll have a phone number somewhere on the DFA site.

MarDhea · 16/10/2016 17:44

Note that the Foreign Births Register is not the same as the passport office - different but related branches of the DFA - so they'll have their own phone no. and address.

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SophieofShepherdsBush · 16/10/2016 17:46

Maybe it's because I wrote that I live in Europe on another recent brexit/Ireland related thread amalfi

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titchy · 16/10/2016 17:57

Hannah - nationality and university fee status are not related, so no - having an Irish passport does not entitle your child to EU fee status. It's your domicile that counts. You'll only get EU fee status if you have been domiciled in an EU country other than the U.K. for five years.

FarAwayHills · 17/10/2016 14:43

Can the DFA please block my ILs from applying on the grounds they both voted leaveSmile

ByeByeLilSebastian · 17/10/2016 15:39

What's it like there? I've never been but would love a visit.

Cocolepew · 17/10/2016 17:25

Well I think its lovely Grin
Good thing about NI is you never need to travel too far for anything.
Lovely beaches, views, NT sites, forests etc.
Rains a lot though.