welcome to craicnet!

[Carriemac]

am very excited about this so thought we should introduce ourselves, I'm Irish, living in the UK for 20 years and have 3 DC. Travel to Ireland frequently as we have a holiday home in the southwest.
Currently worried about Brexit implications as DS 2 17wants to study in Ireland at third level.

It's all black propaganda, lies and innuendo user1471734618 to get people scared shitless

The UK and Ireland have always had special trade, travel and security agreements that predate the EU and which both countries refused to give up when the EU went from being something useful to nothing more than a group of evil pen pushers who are trying to control every single aspect of our lives, even those aspects that the European unions founding father held dear.
Brexit won't affect these agreements and might actually make the country even more stronger

Exactly Amalfi.

For example I am an Irish citizen as my dad was born in Dublin in the 1930s. There are literally millions of people like us, in both countries, millions. We all have the same 'rights' in each country.

Brexit is not going to affect those special agreements that predate the EU by decades.

But folks, the current arrangements for common travel area and right of Irish people to work unrestricted in UK (and vice versa) will only continue so long as UK and Irish govts both want them to.

And no one knows what the UK wants from Brexit, except (apparently) to restrict immigration. There are no guarantees that Irish citizens won't be faced with new restrictions as post-Brexit border controls and immigration policies are drawn up.

Doubt away - and I hope you're right! - but it's naive to think the 1948 terms are sacrosanct when so little is known about Brexit plans and when NI comes so low on the list of priorities for the current UK govt that it rarely gets a mention.

well all I can say mar, is that I hope you are wrong.
These islands should stick together.

except (apparently) to restrict immigration

Irish citizens aren't seen as "immigrants" though. Not in the modern sense of the word as used by the Brexiters. Immigration (as per the normalisation of the word as the media dictates) are those non EU citizens who are coming to the Uk using non legal means. And those who are being "forced" on the UK by the eurocrats.

The 6 counties have always been so low on the list of priorities for the current UK govt that it rarely gets a mention. But there will be no border poll no matter how many throw their dummies out of the pram for the simple reason that the GFA doesn't provide for any sort of referemdum or poll until the the wish expressed by a majority in such a poll is that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland.

and that ain't ever gonna happen unfortunately

Irish citizens in the UK will be classed as immigrants if and when it ever suits the UK govt to do so. It doesn't matter what Brexiters in the media or in the street consider to be immigrants - it's up to Theresa May and her cronies now, and they'll do whatever is expedient. Hopefully it won't come to revisiting the "special arrangements" with Ireland, but it's on the table.

And a cross border poll has nothing to do with it. There are a large number of things the UK govt could do to prevent creating a physical border between NI and RoI and breaking terms of the GFA, some of which I mentioned in an earlier post.

I think you're right , MarDhea.
Hopefully it won't change from the way it is now, but we jsut don't know. It's all on the table. I'm not sure the EU will look favourably on a request for 'special arrangemnets'. They're not looking so favourably on our 'special arrangements' with Apple re tax. I wouldn't presume anything.

Honestly the stuff that people come out with is ridiculous.

No one knows what is going to happen with Brexit. The British government doesn't seem to have a clue so we certainly don't know. Hopefully the agreement between UK and Ireland will remain as it is but it may well change and then the status of Irish citizens in the UK would be no different to that of citizens from any other EU nation. To dismiss as 'ridiculous' claims that this could happen is real head in the sand stuff.

the current arrangements for common travel area and right of Irish people to work unrestricted in UK (and vice versa) will only continue so long as UK and Irish govts both want them to.

Exactly!

I've only just discovered craicnet.

I'm originally from Galway but lived in London for over 12 years before moving to Waterford. I moved back over 19 years ago, my older son was born in London and the younger one here in Waterford.

It was a bit of a culture shock when I moved back but I'm so settled here that I don't intend to live anywhere else. I love going to the UK for holidays and short breaks.

hi someone mentioned craicnet am I on correct site

Thank you

Hi just wondering can anyone help me regarding cost of divorce in Ireland . My husband separated the house pays all bills but doesn’t give me any money and has stopped me writing cheques . I am very unhappy and for my mental health I need to leave the environment. He is also coming into pension age . Solicitors are so expensive

Hi @Maddiemet. You're on the right part of the site, but you've posted in a very old thread. People tend to reply to the original message on a thread, and may not see your posts.

To get more specific advice, I suggest you start a new thread in this topic, then you'll hopefully get replies. Maybe title your thread something specific like 'Cost of divorce in Ireland' then people will know what advice you're looking for.

Best of luck to you.

I can’t believe that Craicnet is at least 10 years old.
I asked for something similar to Scotsnet be set up and lo and behold it was.
I can’t remember who thought of the name Craicnet for it but I thought it was genius.
No sign of @MaryZ or @iblinkedandiamoldanymore 🥲

@Maddiemetif you are on the Mumsnet app go into topics and find Craicnet and then start your own thread on there re the cost of divorce.
Stress in your first post that you want advice from people living in Ireland as the law is different.

It was me

Well done you @Carriemac 💐

Should have it on my CV

MaryZ was booted off during some of the feminist board shite back in the day.

I tried to get in touch with her here to add her to some FB groups that were popping up but was too late. She seemed like a great woman to know 😊

I miss Maryz too. She and I supported each other through the Leaving Certificate for our middle DC many years ago. She was sound.

Very sound