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" I live inThe dark" BBC article.FFS.

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Nolongera · 23/10/2026 09:56

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwz0vxl21m3jo

This bloke is wandering around in the dark to save money. No where in the article does it mention how much it actually cost to run a light.

A standard 6w modern bulb costs less than 2p for ten hours. I simply don't believe this is is anyway cost effective.

My mother in law had a fall trying to save money by not switching lights on, when I asked her how much she thought it cost, she reckoned about 50p

Articles like this are part of the problem.

An older person wearing a blue fleece jacket over several layers of clothing stands indoors in a community facility. Tables and shelves with food and household items can be seen in the background.

Meet the Stoke-on-Trent pensioners finding new ways to cut costs

Errol McGuiness says he has changed his daily routine to cope with higher household bills.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwz0vxl21m3jo

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Truinio · Yesterday 22:30

Awkwardisfunny · Yesterday 22:16

Hmm good point (diamonds weren't the best example). Another thing to add to my reading list.

Though.. initial thoughts are that demand wouldn't have to increase costs because as long as they source the energy, they have it and only need to make X profit. They have always known they will run out of various fuel sources so I don't think any of them are worried about that - once we run out, that's it anyway so if we needed to ration, then they would force that and costs would stabilise anyway.. okay, enough speculation, I will read into it!

But they don’t only need to make X profit. They need to maximise profits for their shareholders. You charge what the market is willing to bear, not ‘enough to make X profit’. No company says “oh people are buying more of our stuff so let’s reduce the price so we don’t make too much money”, especially when there is scarcity.

Energy companies are making record profits due to the Iraq war - they aren’t going to drop their prices to limit their profits to some arbitrary number.

Awkwardisfunny · Today 08:21

Truinio · Yesterday 22:30

But they don’t only need to make X profit. They need to maximise profits for their shareholders. You charge what the market is willing to bear, not ‘enough to make X profit’. No company says “oh people are buying more of our stuff so let’s reduce the price so we don’t make too much money”, especially when there is scarcity.

Energy companies are making record profits due to the Iraq war - they aren’t going to drop their prices to limit their profits to some arbitrary number.

For the UK... I will look into this but somehow, I don't think you're right about energy in the UK. They can't charge more than we can afford for commodities so it's definitely limited by the job market and earning power at least.

Truinio · Today 09:47

Awkwardisfunny · Today 08:21

For the UK... I will look into this but somehow, I don't think you're right about energy in the UK. They can't charge more than we can afford for commodities so it's definitely limited by the job market and earning power at least.

In the UK it’s limited by the price cap. But yes, obviously prices are limited by willingness and ability to purchase. The optimal price (at which profits are maximised) is determined by the intersection of the demand curve and profit curve.

This is pretty basic economics, not anything crazy. This might be a good place to
start if you want to learn about it: books.core-econ.org/the-economy/microeconomics/07-firm-and-customers-06-maximize-profit.html

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