Cost of fuel

[Thingamebobwotsit]

Not sure if this is the right place to post, but just had to pay £100 to fill up my very bog standard car. Everywhere cheaper had sold out.

We aren't exactly silly with our money, but can see us having to rein in spending even more.

Nothing really sensible to say, but it looks only set to get worse.

Yes thats because its not HMRC who have lowered the mileage rate, its the NHS, was 59p for first 3500 miles, now 56p (from 1st January)
Rates for over 3500 miles drop from 24p to 21p.

Apologies.

Of course the HMRC rates being frozen at 45p for first 10k are in real terms a substantial cut now.

Not feasible for a lot of people though. A 5 hour one way trip for me would change to 9 hours, plus changes. And I couldn't transport the kit I need to take. For care workers at the other end of the spectrum who make lots of local journeys and 15 min home visits you are talking about 10s of lost hours each week trying to get from A to B. Similarly people who have any sort of land management role often cover miles per day.

We have all made adjustments where we can, but some simply aren't possible so we have to take the hit. I am not saying we don't recognise that our jobs require taking a hit but I suspect none of us priced in this level of rapid increase in fuel prices over a matter of weeks. That is the issue.

I’ve just done a quote and it’s gone down to 1.13 but it’s so volatile at the moment.

It would help if the relentless back to the office rhetoric was stopped. People travelling needlessly to sit on Teams calls all day.

The government can do very little about oil prices. We are pretty much at the mercy of idiot Trump and his massive ego. We certainly don’t want to get involved with that shitshow. Our best option is investing more heavily in wind/ water/ solar/ batteries. We can’t make much of an impact on supply, but we can on demand.

It has highlighted how dependent we still are on oil, though. It is driving us to think about electric cars and solar. As others have pointed out, Thatcher sold off our oil reserves. And the oil they produce there is high sulphur, so isn’t something we in the uk can easily process; our refineries were designed for low-sulphur oil.

We just shut the schools.
Hospitals

GP surgeries.

Supermarkets

Not like any of that needs petrol.

And we should all be happier now that the roads will be less congested

Our local, which is normally good value, was charging £156.9 yesterday. Admittedly I went a mile out of my way on the way home from work, but paid £141.9 per litre. Passed another on the way back which was £149.9. It seems to be varying so much around here.

it will at least be an exercise in why ‘just stop oil’ have no clue as to what we use oil for…

Agree with this . People shouldn’t be forced into an office if there is an alternative

I have to agree with you,there are just far too many cars on the roads all day everyday ,more than half of the trees plus one that snapped in half last night have died from pollution on my street.

But really if we had taken on board the messsge decades ago we wouldn’t be in this mess

and even at school in the 1980s our general lesson covered the risks of the Middle East as a key topic

war in the Middle East has been on the cards for decades and we have had decades to prepare and we haven’t

no point crying over spilt milk I guess

but we still have more milk to spill with climate change

And we’ve got a climate emergency which is going to get worse and worse and ultimately cost us all a lot of money. Why would we want to make it worse by using fossil fuels and threaten our children’s future?
Better to invest in green energy.

Yes i get this but the point really is this wasn't a war started in the ME, it was a war started by 2 evil men, both in their own ways trying to escape justice, who decided to start a war as a diversion and/or "for fun" as Trump would put it.

What we really do need to do is to wean ourselves of the USA.

As for Climate Change, so long as we have leaders like Trump Putin and a few far right people in Europe, there really is very little we can do about it.

Norway? still has very expensive petrol, slightly more than here in the UK.... so much for drilling....

Oh, I completely agree. We should have done all sorts of things, but live in a world where no one plans more than 4 years int the future.

We shouldn’t have run down our gas reserves.

We shouldn’t have allowed the degradation of our farmland.

We should old have moved faster to renewables.

We should have invested more in recycling technology- especially for electronics.

We should have focussed much more on creating a healthy, fit and self reliant population.

We should have trained up our youth to do all the jobs we need them to do.

So many lost opportunities.

Believe me I used to buy into this. I constantly thought from about 1995 to about 2015 that the world was about 6 years away from being under water.

That's what we were being told, right?

It turned out what we were being told was not right.

No I don’t think that anyone thought we would be under water in less than a decade in the 80s or 90s

I do know that lots of people misunderstood the various messages - coping with the outcomes from “what if” scenario modelling is quite a skill

Do you remember being told at school that by the year 2020 the Maldives would be underwater? That's what my primary school told us.

I do believe that human activity has affected the climate, and ecological systems worldwide. We're too numerous and consume too many resources for it to be otherwise. But I'd rather focus on green energy for 'making the world a nice place for us to actually breathe and exist in' rather than doomsday predictions.

It's simple economics. Supply goes down, price goes up.

The supply has going down. If you can't afford the increase, you need to drive less.

Could be …if emissions had grown at the faster possible rates

we Haven’t done enough to prevent climate change but we have done something!

But some islands are now being abandoned

1.50 a litre in sainsburys today - might do it incase it gets more expensive 😟

The gulf petrol station in Malton was £1:83.9 yesterday for diesel. When I first started travelling there, it was around 5p a litre cheaper than it is back home. It isn’t anymore

That’s 0.91p per litre - your car obviously wasn’t empty as it’s many years since fuel was that price approx 2005 !!

Our local Asda petrol station was £1.50 this morning.

Whenever people have this kind of mindset, or thought processes I always think.

It's not too late.

There is nothing stopping changes being made to future proof our country now.

Even if things that should have been done 10 years ago were not done.

It can still be started now.

Whether they do it or not is a different story. But no point in crying over the past.

I get 45p a mile travel expenses - and I have to travel about 80 miles a week for my job. I’m not sure now (maths not being my strong area) if I’m breaking even or losing money. I have a standard petrol car and it’s getting so expensive to fill!