Pub prices

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Just like people’s thoughts on this , our local pub just reopened after a spruce up, new owners nice little pub, me and the wife sometimes like to pop in on a Saturday late afternoon for a couple of drinks, they don’t do her favourite drink which is Pinot blush dry , they do a nice Provence which I was horrified to learn was £12 for a large glass, so I had a couple of pints at £6.30 each she had 2 glasses of wine, so today i refused to go to said pub because I will not pay £12 for a glass of wine, she said Iam being tight, I said even if I was a multimillionaire I still wouldn’t pay out of principle, thoughts please.

My thoughts are that I’m happy to pay pub prices for a nice pub experience and sit down and chat with a friend or dh.
Obviously it’s much cheaper to sit at home and have a glass of wine. But I also like going to the pub so sometimes we do that so we aren’t at home where there are boring distractions.

How big is a large glass? Is it one of the 250ml glasses? - basically 1/3 of a bottle

I’m not suprised pubs are closing down, who can afford to go out every week now? It’s £7.50 a pint in our town and yes a glass of wine is £10 at least. I get it the pubs have got their overheads, all hospitality is struggling, but they aren’t viable if people don’t have the money. Dh and I go out once every couple of months now, a few years ago it was once a week, we just can’t afford it anymore.

I wouldn’t pay £12 for a glass of wine.

we were in our nearest city last weekend (Glasgow) pint of lager, 2 vodkas and a bottle of Diet Coke was £17.50- £22.50 depending on what bar we were in.

our local bar(smallish town) is £13 for the same round of 3 drinks.

I hate paying for overpriced drinks.

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Not much help, but your post triggered a memory. My dad always told me when i was a teenager to only ever drink beer in a pub as it was unfair to expect a date to pay for wine or spirits or to join in a round with anything other than beer! I guess this would be considered a very old fashioned perspective these days but there is some merit in it especially as pub wine is usually shit.

a large glass should be 250ml!
even at that size it’s expensive, at 175ml it’s eye wateringly expensive. £6 a pint is about the max here and that’s a major tourist city.

I wouldn’t pay that for a glass of wine.

not for 175ml.

I wouldn’t pay that for a glass of wine, I would put it down as The Expensive Wine Pub and only ever have beer there.

I wouldn’t hold it against the landlord though, they are trying to keep going in an unbelievably difficult environment so good luck to them.

I feel really sorry for pubs trying to stay afloat but the reality is costs and minimum wages have gone up far faster than anyone else's pay and it's not affordable the way it used to be.

@2chocolateoranges I'm in Glasgow and we often leave the city to go for drinks because prices are so different if you just go 25 mins on a train.

My local charges £7.50 for a large glass of wine and £4.60 a pint, makes me realise how lucky we are (independent small business) I’m off in a few minutes there and we’ll be lucky to get a seat (band on at 8) sw England

Minimum wage increases
Employers NIC increase
Usually exorbitant rent to landlord
20% VAT
Utilities ridiculously expensive (no controls/maximums for businesses)

It's a surprise that there are ANY pubs and restaurants still open.

This wouldn’t bother me if I have a good night out with my friend or DH.

In my town DH and I will be between £7.50 and £8 on average for a round of a pint and a white wine (usually the 187ml bottles). If we go just a few miles along the road to our nearest city I’ll pay more than that just for my wine and it’s usually the same stuff. We tend to stick to our locals now because of that.

The cost isn't really for the wine though

I suppose what happens is people or keen on a particular wine, so it's considered more of an inelastic demand, and therefore more subject to price changes.

but what you're saying isn't a large glass is it? It's a medium.

Nope you’re being fair. £12 is the cost of a bottle not a glass. I get annoyed paying £5 for a Diet Coke of £8 for an alcohol free beer.

I just don’t go out much anymore.

We're seeing the fruits of labour's NIC / business tax rates and min wage increases, mass redundancies to follow. No point people earning more on min wage if the price of everything shoots up and that's even if they still have a job paying it at all.

This is why there's the campaign to ban labour MPs from their local.

No you are not being tight. I guess once every now and again is ok but not every week . And you are right , even if you were a multi millionaire it don’t mean you have too just because you can . It’s only if you want too .

People say wages should be increased and when they are this is what happens unsurprisingly.

Wine and spirits have always been disproportionately expensive in pubs and restaurants which is why I usually have beer when out and save wine and spirits for home, or abroad, when more reasonably priced.

I know it's hard for pubs but the reality is that people are trying to make their reduced disposable income cover as much as possible so more people will decide stuff like this is unaffordable or at least not worth their money.

I think any industry dependent on discretionary spending is now fooked and if you work in any of these industries - retail/leisure/hospitality etc - I'd be looking to consider other options.

I work in a min wage industry, I'm management grade myself but every year as we have to put up wages without additonal income this means guess what - we have to have less people do more work to make the beans spread far enough. I think if the labour government had come to power in a time of economic boom, as in the Blair years, some of these policies may have been ok as there was the income generation to support them. But in a time of recession (feels like we've been in a recession for ages even if not officially called such) it's madness.

Meanwhile if you are selling these kind of devices you may be able to make some money as I can see there being a market for it! https://metro.co.uk/2017/09/27/10-products-to-help-you-smuggle-in-booze-into-any-party-6957383/

I do feel sorry for pubs and restaurants as I know they’re struggling but at today’s prices we simply cannot afford to go out. Minimum wage might be rising but our wages are not.

This is the thing. Everyone is being squeezed and that includes the pub landlords trying to run a business. (in fact includes everyone who is self employed/running a business). Taxes going up, wages going up, utilities going up, ever more costly regulations, etc. And of course the business owner has their own living costs increasing too, like everyone else. We're close to being in the spiral of doom and Starmer/Reeves etc havn't a clue how to stop the downward spiral and are actively making things worse.

You can get really decent bottles of wine for <£10 at aldi/co op etc
Our local pub has just put up prices again...dh and I tend to go for Sunday lunch once a month which costs around £80/100 a time, but we just can't justify it now 😕
They already only employ 16-21 year olds to keep the wage bill down.
The amount of food provided has also reduced we've noticed.