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I got caught shoplifting

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RoseBiscuitll · 09/09/2024 15:02

I really didn't know what topic to choose for this

I'm mortified, I got caught shoplifting in boots today, I was stealing baby milk and a facial moisturiser. I'm so ashamed of myself. It was in the city center aswell. They didn't call police but they took my details, took a picture and told me I can't return to the store again

Will this picture and my details go around to the other shops near by or will it just go to the other boots shops.

I can't believe I was stupid enough to do this! I'm so embarrassed and also feel really guiltily!

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ExquisiteEmelda · 10/09/2024 14:19

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 13:59

You can keep asking but I won't be sharing identifying details.

If you either don't believe it happens or you believe out of date food is unquestionably fine to eat (sometimes it is, sometimes it causes food poisoning), then I can do no more. There's nothing I can do about someone's deliberate unwillingness to see the facts.

Tins out of date are perfectly fine years after the best before date but that’s beside the point. I believe you probably found one of two tins that slipped through the net and were out of date, and you are exaggerating to prove your point. People aren’t allowed to donate out of date food to food banks, they just aren’t.

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 14:20

bringincrazyback · 10/09/2024 14:14

OP has explained that. She has been unable to find a one-bed or anything other than a house share at present. And I've read every one of her posts and still can't see how you're conjuring up '800 a month disposable income'.

I come from a very poor town myself and have seen a lot of poverty as well as experiencing it myself at a different time in my life, I only just get by even now in middle age. Chancers exist, there's no doubt about it. But if OP was one of those, I absolutely don't believe she would be feeling the remorse she feels over her actions, let alone posting on MN about it. What on earth would be the point?

To find out if she will be recognised and if she can go to other boots stores.

usernamealreadytaken · 10/09/2024 14:21

RoseBiscuitll · 09/09/2024 23:21

The cot is an investment.

It turns into a single bed

So will see her threw until she is a 5-6 year old child

I think it was well worth the money.

When you're on the bones of your arse, you shouldn't be making "investments" if you can't afford to feed yourself and your child. A cheaper cot to get you through the next six months, then putting away £5 or £10 when you can would have got you a decent single bed when needed, and the added bonus of not having to steal stuff.

bringincrazyback · 10/09/2024 14:24

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 14:10

But it is conflated at its core. Because,you need to identify the genuine poverty from those in it for a lifestyle choice, in it because they don’t want to work, in it as they spend up down the pub or on fags or weed. Drugs. In it as they can’t manage their money,

the fact remains the op had she got a one bed flat would have close to 600 a month for food and bills. Hardly grinding poverty where you’re forced to steal milk or starve.

Well, we're going to have to agree to differ. All I will say is that OP's mistake, which she's been transparent about and clearly regrets, and as a mother of a small child who clearly wants to do her best even though she has made mistakes, isn't in remotely the same ballpark as the pub, fags and drugs you keep talking about.

Oh, and I still don't agree with how you're crunching the numbers.

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 14:25

bringincrazyback · 10/09/2024 14:14

OP has explained that. She has been unable to find a one-bed or anything other than a house share at present. And I've read every one of her posts and still can't see how you're conjuring up '800 a month disposable income'.

I come from a very poor town myself and have seen a lot of poverty as well as experiencing it myself at a different time in my life, I only just get by even now in middle age. Chancers exist, there's no doubt about it. But if OP was one of those, I absolutely don't believe she would be feeling the remorse she feels over her actions, let alone posting on MN about it. What on earth would be the point?

Exactly. Part of the issue here is the lack of affordable housing. The OP should be able to live in an appropriately sized property at fair rates.

But again, things are too expensive and people don't have enough money coming in. It's a very simple equation to work out that when the cost of living is too high, people will end up in poverty.

But of course many are all to keen to convince themselves that poverty is a fiction.

bringincrazyback · 10/09/2024 14:27

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 10/09/2024 14:16

I've survived on a very low income, and wasn't entitled to benefits, so please don't assume I don't know about struggling. I ate mostly yellow stickered food and was incredibly frugal.

Thanks for answering. I asked the question so as not to assume. But equally, other people's struggles aren't necessarily going to be the same as your own, and just because you managed by being frugal doesn't mean everyone can.

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 14:27

usernamealreadytaken · 10/09/2024 14:19

There's no shame in being poor, but you have to adjust your spending. Benefits should only be a short term solution, not a lifestyle choice. You're not meant to be comfortable on them.

Why should someone who is disabled, unable to work because of caring responsibilities, or unable to work for another reason not be able to live comfortably?

Do you think you can punish the disabled into good health so they can work?

And let's not forget that many people on benefits are in work.

bringincrazyback · 10/09/2024 14:32

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 14:20

To find out if she will be recognised and if she can go to other boots stores.

Partly. But you'd have to be an extreme cynic to assume she didn't also feel bad about her actions. She could easily have dressed it up as 'asking for a friend' and not shared as much detail as she has, or been as honest in her responses.

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 10/09/2024 14:41

The majority of one bed properties are still outside the LHA allowance. What do you not actually understand?

I guarantee if this was someone on a pension who had barely any money, in a house with spare rooms the comments wouldn’t be so scathing. But because the OP dares to be on benefits it’s the exact opposite.

ChickAndTheDuck · 10/09/2024 14:44

Hiiiiiiiia · 10/09/2024 01:06

@NeedaBreakSoon i never said that i agree with crime. crime is those people who go out there stabbing and killing, taking food for your baby i don't see it as a crime. they should lower the prices then. the government steals from you everyday and you don't even notice .. but that is ok? per example if she went to steal alcohol, absolutely wrong but cmon.. a bit of understanding is milk...

Despite you thinking it shouldn't be a crime, the fact is that it is a crime under s1 of The Theft Act 1968. Low value theft is a summary only offence, triable in the magistrates court and can carry a maximum sentence of 6 months in prison. Higher value theft is triable either way (magistrates or crown court) and has a maximum sentence of 7 years in prison.

I don't think people should be minimising the seriousness and potential ramifications of theft.

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 14:50

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 10/09/2024 14:41

The majority of one bed properties are still outside the LHA allowance. What do you not actually understand?

I guarantee if this was someone on a pension who had barely any money, in a house with spare rooms the comments wouldn’t be so scathing. But because the OP dares to be on benefits it’s the exact opposite.

Do you know the op and where she lives, so are posting stuff like this, your responses are getting more and more bizarre. Or do you just struggle when folks have a different opinion to you?

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 10/09/2024 14:53

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 14:50

Do you know the op and where she lives, so are posting stuff like this, your responses are getting more and more bizarre. Or do you just struggle when folks have a different opinion to you?

You’ve posted about 4 comments condemning the OP for not living in a 1 bed. I responded to you giving insight as to why it isn’t as simple as that.

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 10/09/2024 14:54

Also not bizarre thanks. Living in the real world and all too familiar with the effects of the housing crisis and cost of living.

YogaForDummies · 10/09/2024 15:07

Just want to add that it's the opposite in supermarkets lol, the increase in shoplifting made the supermarkets relent and it made then bring prices down, as they didn't want to spend even more on security measures and hungry people needing food meant shoplifting went through the roof last year. The reasons the prices went up so much was corporate greed and nothing more.

RoseBiscuitll · 10/09/2024 15:13

usernamealreadytaken · 10/09/2024 14:02

Given that you apparently only had enough money for either milk or food, which did you buy?

Tried to steal milk in the first shop

Then would of gone to another shop to buy food

Obviously didn't go to plan so had to buy milk later on thay day in different shop

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usernamealreadytaken · 10/09/2024 15:16

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 14:27

Why should someone who is disabled, unable to work because of caring responsibilities, or unable to work for another reason not be able to live comfortably?

Do you think you can punish the disabled into good health so they can work?

And let's not forget that many people on benefits are in work.

That's not what's being discussed here, so stop being obsequious. This discussion is about out of work benefits and somebody who is not working stealing because they aren't budgeting.

usernamealreadytaken · 10/09/2024 15:17

RoseBiscuitll · 10/09/2024 15:13

Tried to steal milk in the first shop

Then would of gone to another shop to buy food

Obviously didn't go to plan so had to buy milk later on thay day in different shop

So did you at least get some food from a foodbank or community larder?

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 15:19

usernamealreadytaken · 10/09/2024 15:16

That's not what's being discussed here, so stop being obsequious. This discussion is about out of work benefits and somebody who is not working stealing because they aren't budgeting.

I'm not sure you understand the word obsequious.

Sparklesandbeer · 10/09/2024 15:24

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 13:30

You should not eat tins that are out of date because of the risk of botulism.

They are not out of date. They are past best before...

Viviennemary · 10/09/2024 15:33

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 15:19

I'm not sure you understand the word obsequious.

I don't either. Will have to look it up.

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 10/09/2024 15:35

bringincrazyback · 10/09/2024 14:27

Thanks for answering. I asked the question so as not to assume. But equally, other people's struggles aren't necessarily going to be the same as your own, and just because you managed by being frugal doesn't mean everyone can.

Clearly some folk are better at managing (lack of) money than others.

bringincrazyback · 10/09/2024 16:05

usernamealreadytaken · 10/09/2024 15:16

That's not what's being discussed here, so stop being obsequious. This discussion is about out of work benefits and somebody who is not working stealing because they aren't budgeting.

Or stealing because despite budgeting there is simply not enough money to cover everything.

So many people on this thread waving the word 'budgeting' around like it's a magic wand. You can't budget if you haven't got two ha'pence to rub together.

YogaForDummies · 10/09/2024 16:09

On a reasonably related tangent, what do the posters of this thread think of Boots dodging UK tax? Is that not a form of theft? We can't take essentials but they're allowed to monopolise UK pharmacy and get away with cutting their tax bill. Personally, I would say that is theft. It's the equivalent of shoplifting and not being caught, only on a scale millions of times that of the OP..

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 16:10

YogaForDummies · 10/09/2024 16:09

On a reasonably related tangent, what do the posters of this thread think of Boots dodging UK tax? Is that not a form of theft? We can't take essentials but they're allowed to monopolise UK pharmacy and get away with cutting their tax bill. Personally, I would say that is theft. It's the equivalent of shoplifting and not being caught, only on a scale millions of times that of the OP..

Edited

I didn't know Boots was dodging tax.

I might steal some moisturiser myself.

RoseBiscuitll · 10/09/2024 16:11

YogaForDummies · 10/09/2024 16:09

On a reasonably related tangent, what do the posters of this thread think of Boots dodging UK tax? Is that not a form of theft? We can't take essentials but they're allowed to monopolise UK pharmacy and get away with cutting their tax bill. Personally, I would say that is theft. It's the equivalent of shoplifting and not being caught, only on a scale millions of times that of the OP..

Edited

Why so they not pay tax and how are they getting away with it

Another poster mentioned this about boots

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