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This is unreal - the new variant - anyone have it

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GreenPebbles · 19/10/2024 09:34

I am not ill and I don't have it. I had COVID in the summer and I know it's likely only just around the corner again.

Did anyone have COVID recently? How was it?

I came across this on twitter. Apparently there's a new variant called XEN.

It looks a lot like the original Wuhan variant. It appears as if people are getting better and then by the second week there is respiratory distress.

I mean like WHAT THE HOLY FUCK?

I mean like how can this be allowed to spread if this is happening?

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MyCatHatesSandals · 19/10/2024 17:02

housethatbuiltme · 19/10/2024 16:55

I can tell, it effects me in ways no other virus does... I have used tests in the past to prove it but I'm pretty certain I could tell now without needing one.

With Covid it starts with swollen tonsils (nothing else has ever effected my tonsils, a sore throat is usually much lower down) and then the constant post nasal drip, dry cough from the drip, headache from sinus pressure, leaking eyes and then I lose my hearing. I actually qualify for hearing aids now due to the effects of Covid.

Covid specifically gets deep in my Eustachian tubes, normal colds and winter viruses don't do that and go straight for my chest or gastrotract. Nothing ever did anything like that until Covid came along (and I have a week immune system so catch lots of things so plenty of pre-Covid experience with viruses). Its just a very recognizable pattern and feeling.

Exactly the same for me; very well described.

I work in a school. I've had it three times this year already. I don't know what it's like to have an unblocked right Eustachian tube anymore.

RosesAndHellebores · 19/10/2024 17:09

I 've never been too alarmed by covid. What I find extraordinary, however, is the fact that I could have a vaccine last year due to caring responsibilities. At 64 and still with the caring responsibilities, I didn't meet the criteria for a vaccination on the NHS. I paid £90.

The current criteria do not seem to make sense. The questions asked if I had underlying health conditions. I do, so said yes and was allowed to book an NHS vaccination. When I got to the pharmacy it was declined because I don't have the right underlying conditions. The information was there if one dug deep but it shoukd have come up as secondary questions before booking.

Yet again the public is asked not to waste NHS time. The NHS has no qualms about wasting the time of the public.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 19/10/2024 17:11

jasminocereusbritannicus · 19/10/2024 17:01

No-one I know or work with tests for Covid anymore,we just go on as before it all ‘kicked off’. I’ve not heard of anyone having Covid, recently, however I did have my Flu and Covid vaccinations a week ago as it was offered ( I’m 60 and type 2 diabetic).
I also work in a school. There’s a bit of cold doing the rounds, and a bit of a sickness bug, but nothing out of the ordinary for the time of year.

Haven't heard of anyone with covid yet no one is testing either... see the connection? And a sickness bug is making rounds, you say ? 🤔

PronounssheRa · 19/10/2024 17:12

IOSTT · 19/10/2024 16:21

Current NHS advice for anyone who tests positive with covid is to avoid contact with others for at least 5 days, or 10 days if around vulnerable people. It’s not a legal requirement (at the moment) so I guess it’s a “wait and see” approach.

Yet NHS staff are told to go into work with Covid unless too ill too work. If they do take anytime off its counted as normal sickness absence and can lead to disciplinary.

thestudio · 19/10/2024 17:13

JustAVeryWeirdWoman · 19/10/2024 14:56

HEPA filters get rid of viruses in the air. Masks and social distancing work so well that an entire flu strain has gone extinct. So yes, we can indeed do things about viruses, things other than lying down and accepting continuous infections. It's sad that most people don't have basic scientific knowledge. I don't blame them, but I do blame public health communication.

Why is it that COVID causes such an irrational, aggressive backlash against anyone who dare suggest we shouldn't accept unmitigated transmission? I wonder why that is. Cognitive dissonance? Trauma from the lockdowns?

"It's time to live with it"- but we are not living with it. That would imply learning some lessons and doing some things differently now that we've added a new disease to society. Currently we are just ignoring it, sticking our fingers in our ears and singing LALALALALALA like silly children.

Strongly agree with all this.

Whatsitreallylike · 19/10/2024 17:14

I had Covid about 4 weeks ago and I think it’s the first time I’ve been left with long Covid. In 35 and getting very breathless very quickly still and can barely climb the stairs without huffing and puffing! The fatigue was in another level. I slept 14 hours a day for the first 2.5 weeks. Only stopped napping this week. The I’ll was itself was bad but not horrendous, it’s just the fact I don’t seem to be recovering very well.

Fetafiend · 19/10/2024 17:14

My last vaccine was ages ago. Most I know don’t for the bracket for top ups. So most people aren’t vaccinated now correct? Vaccines are only effective for under a year I believe?

LovelyCinnamon · 19/10/2024 17:16

It is scary but we have to accept it is part of our lives now. In terms of measures, I regret that the handwashing message / antibac gel available everywhere didn’t continue. It would have helped for all colds, flu etc no just covid.

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2024 17:17

There has to be some measures put in place now to minimise this

And what does Twitter suggest @GreenPebbles?

Seeing as it's the new place to get sound medical advice.

Wilfrida1 · 19/10/2024 17:19

OP, why do you always write Covid in capital letters? Are you a drama llama?

PumpkinPantz · 19/10/2024 17:19

I have it just now. I did a test as I’ve had the worst headache and wanted to know why.
I also will stay away from people, DH was sent home for having cold symptoms anyway as his boss is sick of people passing colds about.
I don’t think I remember something where the whole household came down with something at the same time so badly, people should be staying home.

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2024 17:19

Wilfrida1 · 19/10/2024 17:19

OP, why do you always write Covid in capital letters? Are you a drama llama?

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MargaretThursday · 19/10/2024 17:20

I know lots of people with covid this time, and they've pretty much all said that what they noticed was the fatigue which seemed to go on and on. I knew two people in hospital last week due to covid, none of them vulnerable, and one who had just come out who was vulnerable. I've never known more than one person in hospital at any one time before.
It does seem to be a nastier variant. It's because of that I've just booked ds' booster (only one of us who gets it)

SassK · 19/10/2024 17:23

thestudio · 19/10/2024 14:51

Everyone sarkily saying 'so lockdowns and masked worked last time eh?' are being pretty dim.

They did work. They slowed the spread so the NHS didn't collapse.

Because. there. were. fewer. infections.

No one can demonstrate that. Indeed on reflection, countries with differing levels of restriction experienced very similar patterns/waves.

For @GreenPebbles and others who want restrictions, take responsibility and go ahead and restrict yourselves. There's nothing that can't be ordered and delivered to your door.

ddd4 · 19/10/2024 17:26

TheShellBeach · 19/10/2024 17:17

There has to be some measures put in place now to minimise this

And what does Twitter suggest @GreenPebbles?

Seeing as it's the new place to get sound medical advice.

Twitter can be a cesspool, and the OP's opening post wasn't hugely clear, but her source is a cardiologist referring to a Nature article. Nature is an extremely reputable publication.

You don't have to agree, but it is possible to check the source before being dismissive to the OP.

Here's the article.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-53356-5

Prevalent and persistent new-onset autoantibodies in mild to severe COVID-19 - Nature Communications

Autoantibody immune responses could contribute to acute and post-COVID-19 symptoms. Here, the authors describe longitudinal autoantibody responses in a cohort of healthcare workers and hospitalised COVID-19 patients from Sweden.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-53356-5

GoldenLegend · 19/10/2024 17:33

Noisyplace · 19/10/2024 10:14

I mean, there's not much we can do about it. Unless you want to start wearing masks everywhere and go into lockdown again. And that didn't work so well last time did it.

It worked very well last time: the aim was to avoid the NHS being swamped with critical cases. Nobody ever said we could avoid COVID altogether.

jasminocereusbritannicus · 19/10/2024 17:37

I understand what you are saying, but honestly, no-one is seriously ill. And it’s no different to any other year. Usually starts when people start putting their heating on, and particularly in school. I’m forever opening windows and/or turning the heat down, because it’s not healthy to sit it stuffy rooms.

As a school ,we’re pretty hot on hand-washing to keep “bug” transmission down.

I do not wish to go back to “bubbles “ , and masks…that fills me with more terror as I could not bear wearing them…I always felt like I was suffocating .

Jessie1259 · 19/10/2024 17:40

I've had covid twice. last time it was all killer sore throat this time it was killer headache. It's not been any worse then the times I've had flu though.

JustAVeryWeirdWoman · 19/10/2024 17:42

jasminocereusbritannicus · 19/10/2024 17:37

I understand what you are saying, but honestly, no-one is seriously ill. And it’s no different to any other year. Usually starts when people start putting their heating on, and particularly in school. I’m forever opening windows and/or turning the heat down, because it’s not healthy to sit it stuffy rooms.

As a school ,we’re pretty hot on hand-washing to keep “bug” transmission down.

I do not wish to go back to “bubbles “ , and masks…that fills me with more terror as I could not bear wearing them…I always felt like I was suffocating .

Hand washing is very good, even though it won't help against Covid specifically, it works against other illnesses. However opening windows does help with Covid and other airborne viruses! So you are in fact taking a mitigation measure, and I would thank you for this. There are people who can't stand seeing open windows and always close them! Perhaps you have not intended it as such, but it shows that Covid mitigation doesn't have to be lockdown or being in a bubble. Even little things help.

Unfortunately some people are becoming ill with long term symptoms, and there's more and more of them, as per ONS figures. They are still a minority, but a growing one.

kkloo · 19/10/2024 17:42

JustAVeryWeirdWoman · 19/10/2024 16:16

But we are not in the 2019 normal anymore, so carrying on as 2019 normal is in fact delusional.

In fact there are multiple current issues that are major threats to "normal". Climate change damage is accelerating, for example. We have to do things differently or our current society as we know it will break down. Carrying on as normal will not be an option for much longer. If you think having to care about Covid for a year or so was bad, wait until you see what happens with increased extreme weather events, water and food shortages, etc.

There's nothing different about my life now in 2024 than from 2019, so yes I'll carry on as normal. I'm not going to stress myself out by carrying on like we're in an apocalypse whether the planet is doomed or not.

You mention climate change damage accelerating but in an earlier post you talk about filters and social distancing etc making an entire flu strain extinct etc and how we shouldn't have to take viruses lying down. Is that not a bad thing for the environment? Isn't overpopulation a huge part of the issue?

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200617-what-if-all-viruses-disappeared

Why the world needs viruses to function

If all viruses disappeared, the world would be very different — and not necessarily for the better. But what exactly would happen?

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200617-what-if-all-viruses-disappeared

mathanxiety · 19/10/2024 17:47

Get vaccinated.
Wear a mask indoor in crowds.
Use hand sanitiser.

An annual booster shot along with flu jab should keep the beast at bay somewhat, depending on overall population uptake - but you as an individual stand a better chance of either avoiding illness or getting a milder dose if you're vaccinated.

Blanketyre · 19/10/2024 17:50

ddd4 · 19/10/2024 16:21

Try and build up your empathy. Despite only having had it very mildly once, I'm able to understand that others have had a less fortuitous experience tbh. But I am not a twat generally.

Hmm, no not a twat. Having a healthy immune system will help you avoid constant terrible infections. If that wasn't the case then immunisation wouldn't work.

If I was getting Covid multiple times a year I'd be looking at my diet and lifestyle.

mathanxiety · 19/10/2024 17:50

ComingBackHome · 19/10/2024 14:36

Well I wear masks everywhere and I don’t catch Covid do 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
I also dint get colds, the flu and the many other viruses that are around.

And otherwise, you can use air filters, UV lights like they do in Parliament or at the Ministry of Defence (because it works!).

Id recommend reading the research litterature aroubd all of those. You’ll find they work and have been proven to work too. Like in classrooms. Or in hospitals.
A very recent one was in a U.K. hospital. They found the air filter got rid the virus.

Indeed.

I hate to see the pooh-poohing of masks. Along with sanitising (usine over 70% alcohol sanitiser) a mask is a basic and very painless measure that can be taken to reduce the chance of getting it.

mathanxiety · 19/10/2024 17:52

Checkthemeaning · 19/10/2024 15:06

I currently have it and it's absolutely savage.....worse I've felt for many many years. I only tested out of curiosity really as it takes a lot for me to be this floored.

I know the guidance has changed but no way do I wish this on anyone so I'm staying firmly indoors until I'm clear. Morally it's the right thing to do

I really applaud you, and hope you'll recover quickly.

Bs0u416d · 19/10/2024 17:57

I'm sorry but you sound quite hysterical OP. Do you have health anxiety?