Covid and education

[JustAnotherRandom]

With the covid inquiry taking place and discussing pandemic preparedness, I thought I'd share a thread on the impacts of current covid policy on education https://twitter.com/natebpanic/status/1674342348740866049?s=46&t=G9BWOZlYGPa11_pR7aKkbHQ

The legislation won't be drafted until 2024. The participants are still only halfway through the meetings/planning stages.

I will post one thing though and that's a recent podcast with RFK Junior who is running for president in the US. Mis-labelled as an anti-vaxxer by the mainstream press, he summarises the argument from both sides of the debate perfectly. It is three hours long so I don't expect you attention span will stretch to that. But if it does, it gets better as it goes along and it will totally open your mind to a lot of things that are currently going on in the world. And even if at the end you don't agree with it, at least you get to know your enemy - right?

I've seen it all now. 😂😂😂😂

Hands up who knows that even the ONS have explained the 17k figure, but also can't be arsed to waste their time posting a link, despite it taking a two second google.

If you are in the habit of responding to all deaths (covid or otherwise) with 'of or from' as an appropriate response, in my 'fantasy land' and my very real one, I don't need to engage further with you.

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"Mis-labelled as an anti-vaxxer by the mainstream press"

Perhaps. Maybe it's mis-labelled as just an anti-vaxxer. Because he's a paranoid liar about lots of things as well as vaccinations.

His family (the ones who have publicly disowned him because of his views) think that he has a severe mental illness don't they?

Does he still believe mobile phones harvest our brain cells? Or has his Mulder and Scully phase passed?

It's certainly something where given the choice, I'd probably go with Trump. I mean, he's insane too, but possibly not quite as much as Kennedy.

Shame it's usually the ignorant ones who think they have nothing to learn.

Well you said it @Jamiejones44 😁

You are literally trotting out cliché after cliché. Did someone upstream call it " Covid Greatest Hits" ?

You are are on a roll not only with the posts, the cliches, the aggression, the insults, the rudeness.

Talk about ignorance, god alive.

@Jamiejones44

So you've not actually listened, but instead ignorantly parroted all the usual cliches trotted out by those who feel threatened by what Kennedy says regards the status quo.

I find it difficult to believe you actually thought trotting out RFK Jr without irony would support your argument. I judge JFK Jr by his statements and actions, not by what others say about him, BTW.

One of many but these people don't deserve to have their voices heard? The fact that so many are being are injured or being injured is astonishing yet some posters deny that many injuries and long term health problems is not the vaccine. Psychological we know cognitive dissonance exists and it's very strong here.
https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/model-dies-by-assisted-suicide-battling-covid-19-booster-injuries

“Through its aggressive marketing as an “unbiased source of truth,” Evie Magazine tricks people into thinking that it is a factual news site. A quick glance at the magazine’s homepage and a quick read through some of the articles (written at a middle school reading level) show that the authors are clearly pandering to right-wing talking points. From articles spreading disinformation about election fraud to articles cozying up to the QAnon conspiracy theory, Evie Magazine intentionally spreads disinformation to its young, easily impressionable audience. The “health” section has several articles casting doubt on birth control, COVID lockdowns, and mask wearing. Despite their claims of being “fair and balanced,” the authors unashamedly hate on feminism by creating straw-man arguments that paint all feminists as extreme and radical.”

She isn't the only one and again continuous denial of a vaccine that was never adequately tested and is causing harm to so many innocent souls.

If you are questioning the narrative, why, o why do you think the ‘answer’ lies with sources that are EVEN more biased, prone to political corruption, unregulated and have no sound scientific peer backing.

It makes no sense that you would question the narrative without also questioning the motives of your highly, highly dubious sources.

There are too coincidences and denial is strong here. Too many injuries. I suppose it's all made up unless daily mail or bbc report something which to be fair they have a couple of times , no idea why they ignore the thousands of others 🤔

Seen it first hand and a few times too.

Here we are go is this a better source for you.

But I could also post a whole host of stories about people who have died or had their lives severely compromised by Covid itself. And proportionally there are far, far, far more people who have been adversely affected by Covid itself than by the vaccine.

Lisa Shaw could well be one of the people in the UK to have died following the AZ Covid vaccine. I remember the case as it was so rare it made headline news.

Last time I looked, the confirmed number of people to have died shortly after receiving the vaccination in the UK was 9. Lots more people insisting the vaccine was to blame for lots more deaths, but thankfully the real number cf number of lives saved is minuscule. AZ doses in total in the UK were somewhere in the region of 150 million at the time. Obviously it's a tragedy that it happened but very very rare.

We could also be complete sadistic cunts and paraphrase a well-worn and recognisable saying. Did she die AFTER the vaccine, or BECAUSE of the vaccine? But it's better to not be like others on this thread.

(I do believe she died as a result of a very rare reaction to it, so you're gotcha @Sunflowers80, isn't)

My understanding is that Sweden have quite and epidemic of type 1 diabetes among school age children now too.

Do they? I couldn't find a single study that said that. I found study that said that T1 diabetes in kids was high in Sweden but prevalence had plateau'd in recent years. I found this umbrella study (JAMA Netw Open. 2023;6(6):e2321281. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2023.21281) which talked about diabetes prevelance in lots of other european countries since covid: but not Sweden. Where is the story or science about increased T1 Diabetes in Swedish kids since 2020?

It's interesting rereading the thread that the OP asked about Covid policies and education and how those policies affected, and are still affecting our children today. (And they are)

We've been derailed into:

Sweden (which nobody had mentioned)

Lockdown itself (which nobody had mentioned beyond the context of schools being closed 3 years ago)

Vaccination (which nobody had mentioned)

Kennedy (which...ahh you know what I mean)

Vaccine injury

So many subjects, and thus far, not one reputable link or piece of information. We've had Twitter feeds, We've had notorious and famous crackpot websites, publications, and people.

Anybody would think posters had an agenda and were frantically googling for their confirmation bias.

I've tried to find a reputable source speaking about Kat Pave's suicide. If I Google simply her name (so no leading parameters) all I get is links to anti-vax Reddit groups, publications and, erm...Bitchute. 🙄

@WhenIWasAFieldMyself

I've tried to find a reputable source speaking about Kat Pave's suicide. If I Google simply her name (so no leading parameters) all I get is links to anti-vax Reddit groups, publications and, erm...Bitchute. 🙄

I did also - her full name is Katerina Pavelek. But I encountered the same issues as you. The same Instagram was reposted many times by anti-vax groups and publications, etc. Her IDmb references little else but her death. I can find little else about her that doesn't discuss vaccines, her illness and death. It's so strange and unsettling.

No vaccine is totally risk-free. I live with a vaccinologist, and she would say it's an impossibility to make a risk-free vaccine. So if you vaccinate tens of thousands, there will be a handful of related deaths and other serious impairments; if you vaccinate tens of millions, there may be several thousand such side effects.

This is not a gotcha. Nor does it negate the efficacy of a vaccine or mean it hasn't been tested sufficiently – both of which are proven true in the case of Covid vaccinations. As for the testing process? What do people think vaccinologists do all day, sit around waiting for a pandemic to hit and then run around panic-stricken trying to develop a vaccine? I mean, really? It's a constant process of testing, refinement, more testing in bio-secure labs so that, hopefully, whatever type of pandemic hits they are already a long way towards having an adaptable vaccine which can be rolled out.

My view is that current covid policy is not helpful to education. There seems little appetite to change it, whilst also downplaying the impacts of covid.

I think the NHS was woefully underfunded prior to the pandemic, which meant it couldn’t cope with the amount of Covid cases AND its usual volume of admissions. Therefore a lockdown was highly detrimental because it needed to protect a crumbling NHS that the Tories had underfunded. If hospitals had been better able to cope I think less measures would have been needed. The Tories also screwed it up because they dithered and implemented it too late.
And now with the fall out : I can see with my DS needing SEN provision, our local authority is swamped with SEN cases and no funding.

Yet there seems to be enough ££ to fund their mates and to have their parties.