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Omnicron came from mice!?

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HelpfulMonkey · 08/02/2023 10:32

Brought this up on the total chaos other thread and thought some people might like a place to discuss it, there is a research paper which suggest that Omicron came from mice, which is really interesting?

The research paper is here.

And there is an article from Wired magazine here.

Neither are'conspiracy theory' publications which seems to be a lot of what gets thrown around whenever anyone questions anything and I hope some people might find this information interesting or helpful.

I have no idea what this means, but I was treated in a very strange way on the other thread for even mentioning a scientific article which was odd, anyway, the information is here if anyone is interested! Enjoy!

Lots of people seem to want to keep moving forward but it's going to be interesting when what happened in the past comes out! If anyone is interested then maybe there will be a civil discussion, and not a lot of name calling and invective!

OP posts:
MissWired · 08/02/2023 10:39

Many viruses are zoonotic...this is not anything remotely remarkable.

HelpfulMonkey · 08/02/2023 11:42

@MissWired yes, it's not remarkable, but it's interesting.
By your use of language you obviously know this area, do you have any theory about how Onmicron developed?

OP posts:
YukoandHiro · 08/02/2023 11:45

Fascinating!

bronzepig · 08/02/2023 11:55

Omnicron came from mice!?

I would say this is a tad misleading and hyperbolic @HelpfulMonkey

SARS-COV-2 is zoonotic and can bounce between hosts - human, domestic livestock, wild animals. This is where there were several culls, advice given if you lived with animals and were COVID+, and why there were reports from China about pets being killed.

This is not novel and is true for many viruses, influenza for example.

This contributes to the virus gathering mutations and will contribute to the overall mutation rate which determines how quickly new variants emerge.

There isn't a huge amount of evidence that omicron specifically emerged from an animal host - the paper you linked isn't compelling and is fairly low quality (methods, results etc).

pinkred · 08/02/2023 11:58

but I was treated in a very strange way on the other thread for even mentioning a scientific article which was odd,

maybe there will be a civil discussion, and not a lot of name calling and invective!

you seem to be spoiling for a fight @HelpfulMonkey - strange things to add into an OP which just detract from the post.

As explained on the other thread, posters were frustrated that you kept disrupting with irrelevant conspiracy theories and vague hints and speculation that you know something BIG - not for linking research articles.

but it's going to be interesting when what happened in the past comes out

^^ like this

WishingMyLifeAway · 08/02/2023 12:33

So what is being suggested is that omicron was an early mutation, moved into mice and then reappeared in humans over a year later? Wow. That's really interesting. Thanks for sharing.

MissWired · 08/02/2023 12:40

HelpfulMonkey · 08/02/2023 11:42

@MissWired yes, it's not remarkable, but it's interesting.
By your use of language you obviously know this area, do you have any theory about how Onmicron developed?

What @bronzepig said.

This is how viral and bacterial diseases have spread since the beginning.

Read up on the current bird flu outbreak and how concerned biologists are about the possibility of it jumping to humans via an intermediary such as mink, ducks or pigs.

Nothing new at all.

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