Chinas Covid situation

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Has anyone else seen Eric Feigl Dings recent Tweet about Chinas covid situation now their restrictions have lifted? It’s not exactly encouraging reading so please click with caution.

twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1604748747640119296?s=20&t=eYchDHc8BYeZetgs4wOGRg

It just feels like the beginning of something enormous once again, their stretched health services are now struggling to cope with demand (sounds familiar) as elderly vulnerable people are getting sick and hospitals run out of capacity.

If this takes hold as severely as predicted for a prolonged period then the poor and vulnerable people of a China are going to be in a dire situation, meanwhile we are going to face supply chain issues here once again plus shortages of certain materials, the demands on the pharmaceutical industry for basic medicines is a real cause for concern.

Ding (Nutritionalist and Epidemiologists) is known for attention grabbing tweets. In turn you have built on this tweet to cause more anxiety. You need to 'get back in your lane'.

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Ding is a grifting twat, so I wouldn't be paying him too much attention OP.

No idea who that guy is, but China are indeed seeing massive numbers in cases. I think they're having a delayed reaction as they have been so strict so far. No one I have spoken to have shown any worry about increasing numbers of deaths though?

I know quite a few people in China and several of them have had Covid very recently (compared to none I knew in the last few years). They've all had a mild version and been fine though, so hopefully their vaccine will hold up... The low vaccine rates in the elderly must be a concern though.

A level of extra supply chain disruption is to be expected as China comes out of covid zero. It's unfortunate it's happening at the same time as a spike in demand for antibiotics.

His tweets just came up for me and I came here looking to see if there was a thread. I don't understand really - why is he reporting that the morgues and crematoria can't keep up etc if that's not the case? His tweets sound like a massive problem is happening and people who are getting Covid are all dying rather than some having a mild version. I need to read more around them.

Reported elsewhere:

Since relaxing restrictions, China’s public health officials have admitted it was possible that 800 million people could be struck down by Covid in the coming months...

Hospitals, funeral homes, and crematoriums in Beijing are struggling to keep up with the demand, a Reuters report stated...

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that around 200 bodies had been arriving daily recently at the Beijing Dongjiao Funeral Parlour, which handles Covid deaths, a huge increase from the usual average of 30 to 40 per day.

etc.

There are one and a half billion people living in China. If even a small proportion of those expected to catch Covid in this gigantic emerging wave there need hospitalisation, or ventilators, they are going to struggle. There is awful footage of a hospital with people on the floor, crammed together between beds, already.

Honestly, people were banging on in this forum with glee about the "exit wave" Australia could expect. It seems bizarre to claim that this is a beatup now re China. With a population of around I.5 billion, and very low vaccination rates, I cannot see this ending well, the poor people.

I see it’s slowly started to get picked up by some news outlets today. 1.5 billion who have essentially lived under strict rules for 2 years with very little natural immunity and low vaccination rates are quite a big risk even if the majority do experience mild symptoms- we know what ‘mild’ can be like so the impact on industry and health services could be quite high.

@Womanofthe80s you said for me to get back in my lane- perhaps you should do some reading on the situation before posting rude comments.

I just hope to god that the Chinese authorities change their covid stance again and let western vaccines in.

Eric is a self promoting catastrophiser and has published so much BS that it’s impossible to take him seriously. China will have a bit of a shit time of it this winter due to a low elderly vaccination rate but it’ll probably burn through pretty quickly, as it did in HK last winter. However, the Chinese vaccines are actually not that bad. I lived in HK till fairly recently and a study done there showed that the sinovac vaccine with 3 doses offered v good protection against death in the elderly CEV. Even 2 doses was statistically very beneficial. The problem is not really vaccine efficacy as much as vaccine take up. Problem is that zero covid became a double edged sword as people didn’t see a need to get the vaccine as there was no covid. Same happened in HK. Then covid got in and it all went to shit v quickly. But then once that happened and it ran its course, there was no way back to zero covid so the government was forced to just live with it.

Yes, I'm not sure how likely that is, but it would help. My understanding is they have a low-performing vax, and a low-vaxxed population, especially among the elders, and even those who have been vaxxed have not had boosters for the most part.

If you don't like Ding as a source, try Reuters

www.reuters.com/world/china/new-covid-model-predicts-over-1-mln-deaths-china-through-2023-2022-12-17/

The situation is concerning

It was his holy mother of God tweet on January 23rd 2020 that sent me over the edge and I was persistently telling any family and friends that this was going to be huge with every body calling me a nutter. That said I've had covid and 4 vaxes now as has my partner and I'm beyond worrying. What happens happens.

Oh the situation is concerning alright, there's just never any need to bring Eric Feigl Ding into it.

And their idiotic policies thus far have notjing to do with it?

Plus an enormous population which has had almost no exposure.

That's my understanding too. I've seen some reports saying it's only 30% effective but the American guy (Fauci?) said it was around 60%. But their nationalistic stance won't allow them to admit it's less effective. It's tragic if true.

". You need to 'get back in your lane"

Well, unless you are a moderator on this forum, maybe you should "practice what you preach"!