To ask if we’re heading for another lockdown?

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So covid cases are rising and like clockwork, the likes of independent sage are back in the media calling for ‘protections’ like masks, isolation and social distancing to “avoid full lockdown”.

Is it time to reintroduce some measures like the rule of 6, a cap on large events numbers and maybe distancing and early closure for hospitality as independent sage are calling for?

Personally I feel that with vaccines and treatments, we are now in the best position we’re going to get with covid and would be very reluctant to comply with further measures, that themselves cause enormous harm.

Probably busy organising a Zoom Christmas as we speak.

It was vaccines that got us out of it. Look where we were in January 2021.

Don't talk such bollocks.

Probably busy organising a Zoom Christmas as we speak.

😂 😂 😂

Bet I won't get an invite yet again this year.

Thank fuck.

And here we go again with the 'If you can't wear a mask stay at home' bollocks.

Good Christ it's like the last two years never happened. How utterly, completely depressing.

Could somebody please explain why they think we need a lockdown now? What's happening that I've missed? I agreed with some level of restrictions until we had a vaccine, I think that was worth hanging on for, but now? Coronavirus 19 and its multiple descendents are here to stay.

Absolute bullshit.

I don't know a single person that would stick to a lockdown this time.

Fair enough of the pubs not open they can't go but people can't afford anyway. I will 100% never ever be stopped from seeing my family and friends again

My sons teachers wore them at his special school .,I'm not saying people should be forced ti wear them again ,but i have picture, s of his teachers on class dojo wearing masks and face Sheilds.

I am puzzled by the idea that the lockdowns and masks did nothing. I believe the rates for flu went through the floor, everyone I know has commented about going through two winters without cold. Was that a coincidence or did the lockdowns/masks actually reduce the incidence of flu?

I have heard it suggested that people just didn't seek medical assistance for colds (didn't know people did anyway) or flu as people didn't want to go to medical places as they might catch covid so that might explain it or some of it. On the other hand I've read that a bad flu season is expected because natural immunity is low due to two years with low numbers.

I've had my 4th covid jab and my annual flu jab so hoping I am protected but I'm thinking maybe wearing a mask would be worth it to avoid colds. I know people say colds are mild but they aren't pleasant and if they are avoidable then why not?

It seems hard to call it.

I won't either, sadly, but I wouldn't be able to attend even if I did. Too busy murdering people innit. Or something.

COVID is not like flu for everyone. I am medically vulnerable and it is still on the forefront of my mind.

Well you should be afraid of flu too, if you are vulnerable in a bad flu year many people died. Hell from 2020 from the ONS "Deaths involving Influenza and Pneumonia (underlying or secondary cause): 133,294"

Flu is a killer why do people pretend it isn't .

Different schools, different rules. Particularly in SEND schools where childrens' needs are likely to differ so widely.

Personally I think the only thing they should do is make sure people who are positive stay home by bringing back Covid payments that way it won’t spread. And that’s from someone who was terrified of Covid and still worries a little because I have vulnerable people. But lockdown was never handled properly- there were cases a simple ‘stay away from others if you’re sick’ warning would have sufficed. And that’s the way it should always be- we didn’t meet up with my mum a number of Christmases because of flus and colds because they can kill her and my aunty who has an extremely weak chest

I don't understand that either?
Seriously I think the government will do everything in their power to avoid lock down ,s again, in a hypothetical situation that a covid variant evades vaccines and treatment and the NHS becomes overwhelmed with people of all ages being admitted and dying in alarming numbers then maybe one would have to br considered, but this is very hypothetical.

Ha, all you're being asked to do is stay at home and watch Netflix, if you can't wear a mask you need to stay fuck at home, it's all the fault of these SELFISH people flocking to the pub......

FFS

Eh?

I agree. I’ve had Long Covid since Feb 2020. I’m doing a lot better, though I still have a bad chest. I wasn’t helped by having Covid again in March this year.

But no way do I want another lockdown, it was bad for my DDs, especially DD2 (now 10). She’s become very anxious about going out and needs to keep going to school! Another lockdown would be very bad for her.

I would be happy to go along with with increased mask wearing, though, as a protection against rising Covid cases. And against flu as well.

The best protection is to have boosters, however, which I’m having this month.

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"Indy" SAGE were bitter passed over "experts" (King being a prime example) who were angry they were not invited to the proper SAGE and other Gov scientific pandemic groups.

Seriously I think the government will do everything in their power to avoid lock down ,s again, in a hypothetical situation that a covid variant evades vaccines and treatment and the NHS becomes overwhelmed with people of all ages being admitted and dying in alarming numbers then maybe one would have to br considered, but this is very hypothetical.

Even in that situation it's not going to happen.

The parliamentary Tory party don't want it and won't allow any PM to stay in post if they attempt it, whether that's Truss or whoever else gets the gig if they boot her out. Lockdown involves the state paying millions of people to stay at home, and that's not going to happen either. And there's no reason to imagine a lockdown would work in that situation anyway, not with Omicron. It's just too contagious.

I'd be very very surprised if there was another lockdown unless the virus mutated to become ten times more deadly and people of all ages were dropping like flies. I'm thinking that film with whatsheface? Contagion?

If we had an extreme (and honestly? Hugely unlikely) situation like that then yes, there would be another lockdown. Of course there would.

Anything short of that but more deadly than it currently is I think we'd see some move to offer some support to the very vulnerable and reminders to everyone to take sensible precautions.

Remember though, you have to stay THE FUCK at home, or you aren't doing it right.

if we had an extreme (and honestly? Hugely unlikely) situation like that then yes, there would be another lockdown. Of course there would.

I disagree actually.

Lockdown requires essential workers to get their arses out of bed and risk their lives. That only worked last time because covid was low risk to the healthy working population.

But are people really going to risk significant chance of death to keep shelves stacked and A&Es running? I doubt it.

A much worse disease would see social breakdown, not lockdown.

It's going round my workplace again at the minute.
First question HR ask when you ring in is are you coming into work. You have to wear a mask for 10 days when working with covid.
I worked closely with 3 people with covid last week. We've learnt to live with it.