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No new variant booster for under 50s?

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carefullycourageous · 16/08/2022 00:07

I have been reading about the new variant booster and see it is not going to be available for under 50s. This worries me as COVID is no bloody fun for people of all ages.

Is there any chance that in future those who want to get a booster privately will be able to?

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maranella · 16/08/2022 16:21

megletthesecond · 16/08/2022 16:15

I'm 48 and hope I'm either given a jab or can pay for one. I oay for a flu jab and have no time to be downed by covid for a few days.

Thing is that the vaccine does not, and never has, prevented anyone from getting Covid! So if that's your goal I honestly think you may be disappointed.

I've had 4 jabs and I've had Covid twice.

carefullycourageous · 16/08/2022 17:32

titchy · 16/08/2022 13:28

I understand there can be need to restict due to lack of availability - but if so, then say that. If it is not lack of availability, it should be offered to all.

Well Moderna haven't yet said they can definitely produce enough (they do think they can) so I think it's clear that availability may well be an issue.

It's resources overall though isn't it, it costs to deliver and take staff time to jab arms. All that needs taking into account. A nurse jabbing an arm isn't checking an IV in a cardiology ward or taking the BP of a pregnant woman or changing a dressing on an elderly persons ulcer. Resources are limited and are always used where they benefit is highest - that's why NICE exist, and now JCVI.

It is poor that they are restricting the vaccine to over 50s.

Of course it costs to deliver the vaccine, but it also costs not to deliver the vaccine, as workers have to take time off work. It is poor that I can access a flu vaccine, when flu is likely to be far less impactful.

The government has done a poor job overall here I feel.

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carefullycourageous · 16/08/2022 17:32

maranella · 16/08/2022 16:21

Thing is that the vaccine does not, and never has, prevented anyone from getting Covid! So if that's your goal I honestly think you may be disappointed.

I've had 4 jabs and I've had Covid twice.

The vaccine is understood to limit the worst impacts. Presumably you would have been more ill without the vaccine.

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maranella · 16/08/2022 17:42

carefullycourageous · 16/08/2022 17:32

The vaccine is understood to limit the worst impacts. Presumably you would have been more ill without the vaccine.

I know - and quite possibly I'd have been much sicker if I hadn't been vaccinated. But the jabs don't stop you getting it and you can still be ill for several days with it (I was both times).

WinterMusings · 16/08/2022 18:01

well if all the 'it's only a cold' numpties let everyone else that wants one go first, hopefully everyone that wants one, will get one!!

I'll be there as soon as I'm offered one.

(was one of the shielding, so hopefully sooner rather than later)

megletthesecond · 16/08/2022 18:42

mara I know it won't stop me catching it. But it does minimise the illness.

roarfeckingroarr · 16/08/2022 19:44

I'll get a flu jab because I'm pregnant. Do you know if pregnancy means you get a booster too?

PeloAddict · 16/08/2022 20:13

@carefullycourageous it's not just over 50s though, it's those in higher risk groups too or those in contact with higher risk groups
I'm 38 and will have had 5 vaccines

carefullycourageous · 16/08/2022 21:44

PeloAddict · 16/08/2022 20:13

@carefullycourageous it's not just over 50s though, it's those in higher risk groups too or those in contact with higher risk groups
I'm 38 and will have had 5 vaccines

No, I know, but the basic cut off is 50 and I think it should be anyone.

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Goggin · 17/08/2022 07:47

The cut off is 50 for now. It doesn't mean others won't get one, a,though the flu vaccine isn't rolled out to all ages.

Vaccine programmes have to be rolled out in stages. They can't do everyone at once.

KangarooKenny · 17/08/2022 07:49

Everyone who is entitled to a flu jab will be offered a booster.
Kids up to year 11 being offered flu again.

kittykarate · 17/08/2022 10:20

I don't think Moderna can supply enough of the bivalent booster by the end of the year to meet the numbers of people who fit into the over 50s/flu jab group - there's something like 28 million of them, and Moderna were only offering 18 million doses by the end of the year. So actually - under 50s probably have a better chance of getting the new jab because if offered the jab they'll be in a later cohort when supply has picked up.

BogRollBOGOF · 18/08/2022 12:20

WinterMusings · 16/08/2022 18:01

well if all the 'it's only a cold' numpties let everyone else that wants one go first, hopefully everyone that wants one, will get one!!

I'll be there as soon as I'm offered one.

(was one of the shielding, so hopefully sooner rather than later)

Having had two Covid-colds, the first being a scratchy throat 2 weeks after my winter booster and second being under the weather for 4 days, I'm more than happy to stand back and let people with higher age/ medical priority go first.

I've felt more crap from AZ1 and the Moderna booster than I did from the actual illness anyway. A vaccine that's worse than the illness is a bloody hard sell.

DS2 has had Covid twice and barely noticed it either, so I saw absolutely no point in pausing before putting his vaccination invitation into the recycling bin.

We've now been exposed to the virus and fended it off multiple times and I don't see any benefits to additional vaccines for us at this point. That's a different situation to people with additional health conditions or age as criteria to consider, and vaccines should be prioritised to maximum medical benefit not wasted on the worried-well.

RadioRouge · 18/08/2022 18:37

I don't even understand why we're having another round of covid vaccinations. Isn't covid mild and endemic now?
Is it because of long covid and all the strokes and that, or do they think people are going to start dying from covid in large numbers again?
I read a thing a while back that said almost as many people could die of covid in 2022 as did in 2021 or 2020 but I could hardly credit it.
I know there have been about 2000 covid deaths since we hit the 200,000 mark last month.

carefullycourageous · 18/08/2022 22:07

@RadioRouge COVID is still serious for those in higher risk groups. It is not significantly milder, without the vaccines it'd be worse, vaccine immunity wanes.

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RadioRouge · 18/08/2022 23:14

carefullycourageous · 18/08/2022 22:07

@RadioRouge COVID is still serious for those in higher risk groups. It is not significantly milder, without the vaccines it'd be worse, vaccine immunity wanes.

Some days I think all the things we believe about covid are wrong.
It's not getting progressively milder.
Omicron didn't end the pandemic.
None of the exit waves have been the end.
Herd immunity is not happening.
It doesn't just kill the over 80s.
It's not just a cold.
Children are affected by it.
Schools do drive infection.
It's airborne so washing our hands is of limited use.
Any more?

RadioRouge · 18/08/2022 23:23

carefullycourageous · 16/08/2022 12:49

I also think it will not be available privately but am not thrilled not to be offered a booster - it is a nasty virus, much more risky for me than flu and I can get a flu jab if I want one.

Guess it is just another week off work potentially for me... I'm not impressed really. I am not sure what level of vaccine offer is going to be made in e.g. Germany, France, Ireland as a comparison.

It's the time off work that has been the real problem for me. I changed my job over it. I've got children so reasonably I've got to expect to be off with it over and over again, and I'm hoping with my new job I can work from home when it's the children who are ill with covid so I only need to take time off when I'm too ill to work. The last time I had it I was too I'll to do anything. I still don't feel fully back to normal.

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