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Covid positive am I being unreasonable?

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Sitdowncupoftea · 02/08/2022 19:04

I have an event at the weekend we all have tickets. My friend got covid last week and has a bad cold and cough and still testing positive. I realise guidelines have changed but I told my friend that if she's still testing positive the day of event I'm not prepared to car share and go with her. She's took a hissy fit. I said it's unfair to spread it. I don't think I'm being unreasonable. You cant board a plane , go on a cruise etc. Am I being unreasonable? I have not been near her and don't want to catch it and its unfair if others catch it.

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worriedatthistime · 02/08/2022 23:16

@Sitdowncupoftea i flew last month and no tests needed as vaccinated
This is the case with the majority of places , a few still require tests , vaccinated or not
But when did they test positive ? If 10 days will past they are considered unlikely to pass on

shinynewapple22 · 02/08/2022 23:18

I don't think you are being unreasonable, no. And most friends tend to decide themselves to stay home so as not to pass things on to other friends .

It's not true you can't go on a plane though .

shinynewapple22 · 02/08/2022 23:20

Sitdowncupoftea · 02/08/2022 22:02

@ApplesandBunions I'm not sure where you have flown to or from but I know people who had to provide a negative test or no flight home that was two weeks ago.

That will depend on rules of the countries where you are travelling between . It's not about being on board an aircraft .

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 02/08/2022 23:31

Sitdowncupoftea · 02/08/2022 22:02

@ApplesandBunions I'm not sure where you have flown to or from but I know people who had to provide a negative test or no flight home that was two weeks ago.

Then it's likely they are unvaccinated. We've flown to 6 different countries since last summer and no tests needed at all for boarding if fully vaccinated.

JasmineGreentea · 02/08/2022 23:39

Your notes about not boarding planes etc is really out of date. Even for non vaccinated the majority of the world has opened up (a few countries have the exception but most just need a negative test - lateral flow or PCR)

if they tested last week, what day? If it was Saturday I might be a bit iffy if they were unwell, but as to what other posters say, very few are testing at the moment, you have no idea if those around you have it! I’d just get on with it- having some fun. We can’t worry forever

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Sitdowncupoftea · 03/08/2022 01:33

JasmineGreentea · 02/08/2022 23:39

Your notes about not boarding planes etc is really out of date. Even for non vaccinated the majority of the world has opened up (a few countries have the exception but most just need a negative test - lateral flow or PCR)

if they tested last week, what day? If it was Saturday I might be a bit iffy if they were unwell, but as to what other posters say, very few are testing at the moment, you have no idea if those around you have it! I’d just get on with it- having some fun. We can’t worry forever

Not sure what notes your talking about I'm talking about lateral flow tests.

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Abraxan · 03/08/2022 02:09

Planes don't require tests before boarding.

True BUT you do to k/sign a disclaimer to state that you haven't got covid symptoms or tested positive within the previous 14 days. It relies on honesty. There is also still random testing taking place, just less frequently.

Abraxan · 03/08/2022 02:15

Re your friend and the event. You have every right not to want to sit next to her for a prolonged period of time if she is positive with covid, especially if she has active symptoms.

However, it would depend on how long ago she tested positive initially for me. If she was a week or so past, then I'd be more relaxed about it. If still in first few days less so - I'm CV (4 vaccines in) and when I've had covid it's made me ill a I'd rather avoid a known case where I am sat in close contact conversing with that person face to face.

If it's a man unknown case it's different. I can't do anything about that. I can about a known case. Especially in my summer holidays which I'd rather be able to enjoy than risk becoming poorly.

Topseyt123 · 03/08/2022 02:36

Sitdowncupoftea · 02/08/2022 21:41

As far as I'm aware you can't board a plane if your covid positive not a cruise. She's full of cold with a bad cough. It's not a concert it's a sit down event that is still respecting people's space as vunerable people will be in attendance.

Testing is not required before boarding a plane and is not policed at all. You are incorrect there.

You will definitely come into contact if you go to the event anyway. Covid is everywhere. If you want to try not to come into contact with it then you had better not go. Only way, and not guaranteed even then.

Most people I know have given up trying to dance around Covid now and life has gone back to normal.

You could, of course, argue that as she seems to be actually ill at the moment then she should stay away. That would be more reasonable, but you can't enforce it.

WeneedtotalkaboutBrunobaby · 03/08/2022 02:42

If she has symptoms (excluding the cough which can be months). YANBU not to travel or see pets time with her. There is NO way I’d voluntarily do so in your position. I work in healthcare.

WeneedtotalkaboutBrunobaby · 03/08/2022 02:42

*spend time

Topseyt123 · 03/08/2022 02:42

Abraxan · 03/08/2022 02:09

Planes don't require tests before boarding.

True BUT you do to k/sign a disclaimer to state that you haven't got covid symptoms or tested positive within the previous 14 days. It relies on honesty. There is also still random testing taking place, just less frequently.

We flew to Spain and back in the last few weeks and I don't recall us having to sign anything.

WeneedtotalkaboutBrunobaby · 03/08/2022 02:47

Carrieonmywaywardsun · 02/08/2022 20:49

She shouldn't go, and she's obviously a dick for considering it

Yes she is and for all the people who know people who have knowingly boarded planes while positive, they are irresponsible dicks too and so are the posters telling others about them as now even more idiots will think only of themselves.

ArcticSkewer · 03/08/2022 02:50

I wouldn't voluntarily sit in a car with someone who had an active case of covid - or flu for that matter. Nor would I knowingly sit next to them.
Pre-covid I used to get really uptight at plays etc when sat near someone coughing their head off. Who wants to catch your manky illness? Not me, for sure!
Sounds unlikely she will still be contagious by the weekend though?

MrsFezziwig · 03/08/2022 02:52

My friend is going on a cruise in two weeks. She has to show a negative test to be allowed on board.

I think my friendship group must be unusual. Several of us have had Covid and when we have we’ve isolated until we’ve tested negative. Obviously we have the luxury of being able to do that (but then again we are in the age group that is more affected by it). And we’ve been in numerous social situations so we’re not shutting ourselves away willy-nilly. I personally feel there is a difference between mixing with people who may have Covid (but probably haven’t) and deliberately exposing yourself to someone who is still infectious.

onlythreenow · 03/08/2022 04:05

It is possible to test postive for a while without being infectious. However, if she still has symptoms then YANBU. If she is okay by the weekend then YABU, whether her test is positive or not.

Abraxan · 03/08/2022 04:24

We flew to Spain and back in the last few weeks and I don't recall us having to sign anything.

It's normally one of the things you tick a box to confirm when checking in, though may have changed recently for some countries.

Certainly been the case for our more recent long haul travels and for Dd when she went to Italy.

supersonicginandtonic · 03/08/2022 04:35

Youre not even considered to be infectious after 5 days, you're being massively OTT. The world has moved on.

onanotherday · 03/08/2022 04:45

OP YRNBU, just because we are not being made to test or isolate doesn't mean we shouldn't.

There are still many vulnerable people around.

Look at our statistics compared to other countries? I work in the NHS and most medics still wear face coverings
If we all still did in crowds the rates would reduce and with a winter about to be tricky this should be the government's message except they worry what their followers think, more than public health.

I would not knowingly share a car with someone with Covid.

echt · 03/08/2022 05:01

You will definitely come into contact if you go to the event anyway. Covid is everywhere. If you want to try not to come into contact with it then you had better not go. Only way, and not guaranteed even then

The OP hasn't said whether or not they'll be masked at the event.

Topseyt123 · 03/08/2022 08:32

echt · 03/08/2022 05:01

You will definitely come into contact if you go to the event anyway. Covid is everywhere. If you want to try not to come into contact with it then you had better not go. Only way, and not guaranteed even then

The OP hasn't said whether or not they'll be masked at the event.

She hasn't, that's true. However, I assume not simply because hardly anyone wears masks anymore. Myself included there, except in medical settings.

Topseyt123 · 03/08/2022 08:33

And being masked won't stop you coming into contact with Covid or anything else that is around.

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 03/08/2022 09:27

True BUT you do to k/sign a disclaimer to state that you haven't got covid symptoms or tested positive within the previous

Where and when have you had to so this? We have been flying again since last September and have never had to do this ans have flown to 6 different countries.

Cw122 · 03/08/2022 09:57

There are some people who are unable to get vaccinated because of their compromised health or other conditions. So that's not entirely true.

MsMartini · 03/08/2022 10:13

www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/self-isolation-and-treatment/

NHS guidance says stay away from people at higher risk for ten days - it assumes no testing so that is the period of possible infectiousness.

ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2022/01/01/using-lateral-flow-tests-to-reduce-the-self-isolation-period/

Vast majority of people are not infectious by ten days.

www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-11-11-oxford-university-and-phe-confirm-lateral-flow-tests-show-high-specificity-and-are

A positive L:FD means you are likely to be infectious (as opposed to infected) - infections with higher viral loads are what they are good at picking up (as opposed to PCRs).

I wouldn't socialise indoors with someone with covid symptoms (not cough or fatigue etc which can last) or a positive LFD. Nor would I socialise indoors with someone with flu. I agree with pp about strangers - you can't do anything about them but you also won't be in such close or prolonged contact. If she's been negative for a couple of days by the event, I'd go happily.