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Gutted and scared!

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elephantmarchingin · 23/06/2022 07:58

Woke up last night with a bit of a sore throat. Went back to sleep and woke up with it again this morning. Thought I'd test just in case and it's positive! DH is also positive but no symptoms, DS is negative for now but we are unable to stay away from him.

I'm terrified, I'm obese so likely to end up in ICU and then to top it off we were supposed to be going on holiday tomorrow which we obviously now cannot go on. We are so so upset and I need a bit of a handhold, especially since we get no money back!

OP posts:
Hersetta427 · 24/06/2022 08:43

I would hazzard a guess that I am larger than you, triped vaxxed and had covid twice. FIrst time felt fluey and achey for a couple of days, second time like a cold. Just because you are a bigger person doesn't mean you are going to end up in ICU.

Mulberry974 · 24/06/2022 12:58

Meowser72 · 23/06/2022 14:38

It's not virtue signalling, though. We are in a different world to pre-2020 and you just cannot compare them IMO. We know things now, and they are things that specifically relate to covid, that I think should change the way we behave in certain circumstances. At the start of the pandemic I hoped that maybe we would come out of it all a little more considerate (and I include myself in that), but now, I dunno. I don't think going back to the 'old normal' is necessarily the right thing. There has to be (and I hate this phrase) a 'new normal', where we act differently if we do have symptoms. Otherwise, we will learn nothing from this pandemic. And we will be in pretty bad shape when the next one comes along (which, if you read scientists' opinions, is likely to be far worse).

FWIW I tested positive yesterday. I did a test because I go to a hobby on Thursday nights were there is someone who is clinically vulnerable. I tested because I kept having to clear my throat, and I was tired, so fairly minor in the scheme of things. Obviously pre-2020 I wouldn't have done that (wouldn't have even been able to do that), but I felt it was the right thing to do. And now I will not come into contact with this guy until at least next Thursday. Why wouldn't that be the right thing to do?

I don't believe in further lockdowns or anything like that, but there may be times when re-introducing masks (proper ones) might be appropriate, and I also think that the autumn booster programme should be rolled out to everyone. This will enable us to live as normally as possible and try to mitigate what otherwise looks like it's shaping up to be an endless cycle of infection and re-infection.

Absolutely. Agree completely. Things did change in 2020 and a small amount of consideration will make things easier going forward.

ApplesandBunions · 24/06/2022 13:07

Reintroducing masks is not going to be appropriate. The evidence for them acting as a curb to highly contagious Omicron variants in real world conditions is absent. And as any reintroduction of mask rules would be widely flouted, particularly given the whole Partygate fiasco, there would be harm from introducing a law the state is seen not to be able to enforce. It's a bad idea.

Meowser72 · 24/06/2022 13:16

ApplesandBunions · 24/06/2022 13:07

Reintroducing masks is not going to be appropriate. The evidence for them acting as a curb to highly contagious Omicron variants in real world conditions is absent. And as any reintroduction of mask rules would be widely flouted, particularly given the whole Partygate fiasco, there would be harm from introducing a law the state is seen not to be able to enforce. It's a bad idea.

But is there evidence that they will not help mitigate the spread a little bit? I am talking about proper FFP2/FFP3 masks, not cloth ones. I do agree with you about partygate and all that. But I also quite like the 'Swiss cheese' analogy where you use lots of measures, none of them 100% effective, and build them up as multiple protective layers to help slow the spread.

IanOsenfrote · 24/06/2022 13:23

Meowser72 · 24/06/2022 13:16

But is there evidence that they will not help mitigate the spread a little bit? I am talking about proper FFP2/FFP3 masks, not cloth ones. I do agree with you about partygate and all that. But I also quite like the 'Swiss cheese' analogy where you use lots of measures, none of them 100% effective, and build them up as multiple protective layers to help slow the spread.

Wear a mask if you feel you want to. Nobody is stopping you. Just don't try to foist them on everyone. If masks work, you will be fine. If they don't work, infections will continue.

ApplesandBunions · 24/06/2022 13:24

Meowser72 · 24/06/2022 13:16

But is there evidence that they will not help mitigate the spread a little bit? I am talking about proper FFP2/FFP3 masks, not cloth ones. I do agree with you about partygate and all that. But I also quite like the 'Swiss cheese' analogy where you use lots of measures, none of them 100% effective, and build them up as multiple protective layers to help slow the spread.

The general public will not and cannot realistically be expected to all wear properly fitted FFP2 and 3 masks. I certainly agree those are worthwhile for anyone who is particularly worried about covid, and would wear one myself in public if I were. But that's just not what we're discussing. You surely are aware by now of what even people who are actually observing mask laws looks like?

And the problem with the swiss cheese analogy here is that we don't even have real world evidence that mask rules as they would be observed by the general public after the pandemic experience we've had so far count as a protective layer. This is a problem, because reintroduction of masks would come at a cost.

There are all the downsides we've previously had with things like abuse of the exempt, but also the additional issues of weariness, and us having a government who don't have the moral authority to set rules about covid any longer. Having a government who set laws they can't enforce is damaging. It's not a good idea to implement a policy with these absolutely certain downsides when there's no reason to think it would actually improve anything.

HesterShaw1 · 24/06/2022 13:53

My mum is 75 with a chronic lung infection - something akin to TB but not.

She has just had covid and while she feels a bit wiped out she was no anything approaching as poorly as she has been with other viruses in the past. After several calls from the NHS she wishes she'd never tested as well.

As a PP said, use it as a bit of a wake up call if you're this worried about how your weight is going to affect your outcome. Being obese will have a negative affect on your health in all sorts of ways. DP was similar (though his was just a bit of lockdown chub rather than obesity) and has lost 10kg since he had covid last November. He feels so much healthier and fitter.

elephantmarchingin · 24/06/2022 13:57

@HesterShaw1 I am loosing weight just not below yet. It all piled on after DS was born (blooming child!).
So far still just a bit blocked and a sore throat. O2 stats are stable and temp is ok

OP posts:
LovinglifeAF · 24/06/2022 16:46

Hello, just wanted to say I’m obese, nearly 50. Had Covid 2 weeks ago and honestly I have had worse colds. I just had a sore throat and runny nose, a couple of days later my taste and smell went but it came back after a few days. I could so easily have not tested and just been about doing my thing. I have felt worse other times and it not be Covid- or at least not tested positive.

I’m triple vaccinated and not really been fused about having it spreading Covid for over 2 years but once I knew I had it, it did feel wrong to not stay home -even though I had no temperature and felt fine I isolated for 6 days. I wfh thankfully and ordered in food.

im sure you will be fine.. it’s really not very likely at all you’ll end up in hospital let alone ICU. Anecdotal of course but everyone I know who’s had it in the last few weeks has had it mildly like me.

JuneJubilee · 26/06/2022 09:59

@LovinglifeAF

im glad you got it mildly 🌸

I'm sure you will be fine.. it’s really not very likely at all you’ll end up in hospital let alone ICU. Anecdotal of course but everyone I know who’s had it in the last few weeks has had it mildly like me

hospital admissions are increasing again. B5 variant, jubilee celebrations, people going on holiday & festivals.

ICU & ventilator rates increasing.

Deaths more gradually, but still increasing.

not everyone is getting it 'mildly' unfortunately.

JuneJubilee · 26/06/2022 10:00

@elephantmarchingin

how are you doing??

IncessantNameChanger · 26/06/2022 10:02

I’m obese and had the Kent variant pre vaccine. It was incredibly mild. Losing taste and smell the only symptoms. Not ever obese person gets serious complications

berksandbeyond · 26/06/2022 10:13

Take a deep breath. The likelihood of you ending up in ICU is tiny, particularly if you're triple vaccinated. Hopefully you'll have it very mildly, please try to keep calm or the anxiety will do you more damage than the Covid.

Do you have travel insurance for the holiday? Even maybe through your bank account?

elephantmarchingin · 26/06/2022 10:14

@JuneJubilee I'm still here. I think we got infected on Friday 17 as everything else was far to close to the positive test.

One thing I've read is that the 10 day mark is the turning point as to if you will get seriously ill. Is that 10 days from exposure when the virus enters or 10 days from symptoms starting?

The last 2 days I've developed the cough but so far this has followed my regular 'cold' pattern. I normally get a sore throat, then get blocked up then get a cough (productive) which is what I have now.

I'm just scared I'm going to go downhill. My O2 is still showing as 95-98 which is apparently ok and temp is fine

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Oopsiedaisyy · 26/06/2022 11:48

Stop agonising, I'm fat, obese, whatever you want to call it and tested positive last week. At worse its been like a sinus infection.

LovinglifeAF · 26/06/2022 13:16

JuneJubilee · 26/06/2022 09:59

@LovinglifeAF

im glad you got it mildly 🌸

I'm sure you will be fine.. it’s really not very likely at all you’ll end up in hospital let alone ICU. Anecdotal of course but everyone I know who’s had it in the last few weeks has had it mildly like me

hospital admissions are increasing again. B5 variant, jubilee celebrations, people going on holiday & festivals.

ICU & ventilator rates increasing.

Deaths more gradually, but still increasing.

not everyone is getting it 'mildly' unfortunately.

Among the vaccinated though?

ICU admissions as I understood it have been largely in the unvaccinated.

LovinglifeAF · 26/06/2022 13:18

elephantmarchingin · 26/06/2022 10:14

@JuneJubilee I'm still here. I think we got infected on Friday 17 as everything else was far to close to the positive test.

One thing I've read is that the 10 day mark is the turning point as to if you will get seriously ill. Is that 10 days from exposure when the virus enters or 10 days from symptoms starting?

The last 2 days I've developed the cough but so far this has followed my regular 'cold' pattern. I normally get a sore throat, then get blocked up then get a cough (productive) which is what I have now.

I'm just scared I'm going to go downhill. My O2 is still showing as 95-98 which is apparently ok and temp is fine

Where did you read that? That was how I understood it for the original strain when there were no vaccines but not now.

get an oximeter if you’re worried but I’m sure you’ll be fine.

MissMaple82 · 26/06/2022 13:46

Firstly, what makes you think your going to end up in ICU and secondly, yes you can go on holiday!!

MissMaple82 · 26/06/2022 13:47

I honestly thought we had moved on from all this insanity...

JuneJubilee · 26/06/2022 20:06

@LovinglifeAF the OP wouldn't know what her O2 was if she didn't have an oximeter now would she. For the omicron variety oximeter are less useful anyway.

@MissMaple82 how about you stop being so horrible. People are allowed to be worried about their own health.

@elephantmarchingin I haven't read anything about 10 days, I still though most people were feeling the roughest days 6-9, but I don't know. Hopefully you're now past any point at which it'll get worse. That O2 Is hood, totally fine. At one point they weren't admitting people until they were down to 84° (not good, but they only have so many oxygen beds).

TRY not to stress yourself out too much. Personally I'd think if contact was likely to have been the 17th, you're not likely to get much worse than you are now 🌸. Just look after yourself & don't do anything too tiring! Let your body recover x,

LovinglifeAF · 26/06/2022 21:29

JuneJubilee · 26/06/2022 20:06

@LovinglifeAF the OP wouldn't know what her O2 was if she didn't have an oximeter now would she. For the omicron variety oximeter are less useful anyway.

@MissMaple82 how about you stop being so horrible. People are allowed to be worried about their own health.

@elephantmarchingin I haven't read anything about 10 days, I still though most people were feeling the roughest days 6-9, but I don't know. Hopefully you're now past any point at which it'll get worse. That O2 Is hood, totally fine. At one point they weren't admitting people until they were down to 84° (not good, but they only have so many oxygen beds).

TRY not to stress yourself out too much. Personally I'd think if contact was likely to have been the 17th, you're not likely to get much worse than you are now 🌸. Just look after yourself & don't do anything too tiring! Let your body recover x,

Yeah I read it again after I posted! 😖 doh!

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