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Schools still a covid shitshow

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noblegiraffe · 19/03/2022 12:40

"Schools have been forced to send year groups home this week because of "rapidly rising" Covid rates among staff and an inability to find supply teachers, it has emerged.

The removal of the need for Covid testing among staff and pupils was making the situation worse, with some schools now experiencing their worst absence levels of the pandemic, a headteachers' leader told Tes.

Heads warn that some schools are having to send year groups home on a rota or combine class groups in an attempt to protect exam year groups from more disruption."

www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/covid-schools-absence-send-year-groups-home-cases-spike

Some will claim that getting rid of testing would improve the situation, but clearly a situation where lots of teachers are getting ill and requiring a few days off school to recover, regardless of isolation rules, is not 'getting back to normal'.

The teachers that I know who have had covid recently would have required a few days off school despite it being 'mild' even without isolation guidance, even though teachers are well-known for dosing on Lemsip and turning up to school regardless of illness because setting cover work is worse.

Still, the covid catch-up effort has basically fizzled out, and it's looking like zero effort will be made by the government to support children in recovering their education from the impact of absences and lack of teachers.

Exams start in a couple of months for kids who are having an extremely disruptive time. The government has fixed the exam grades so that they will come out with better results than the 2019 cohort, this will basically cover up the impact on educational standards. How this will play out down the line at uni/college/sixth form is anyone's guess.

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LuluBlakey1 · 19/03/2022 20:41

DH (Head) has not had a week since Christmas where at least 2 SLT/HOD have not be off with covid, plus other teachers, admin staff, SEN support staff. Lots of children off but staffing is the big issue.
School next to him has sent 3 year groups home for a week yesterday.

DC's school is finding it tough with staffing too. Some staff have had covid 3 x .

workisnotawolf · 19/03/2022 20:46

Government should invest in all GCSE and A level subject content being fully accessible online for most academic subjects.
This problem isn’t going to go away. In our school most teachers and most kids are vaccinated and have had it wild as well - yet it is still a problem, again. If there is accessible content for all then it is fairer and less stressful for teachers and kids alike.

noblegiraffe · 19/03/2022 20:46

The Head doesn't give a shit because there are no league tables.

There will be GCSE league tables this year, which is a joke. Didn't realise primary wasn't having them.

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LuluBlakey1 · 19/03/2022 20:47

And you are right OP- what has happened to teenagers, in particular, who are taking exams, has been forgotten about by the government.

DH went to GCSE History exam board conference and was told 'remember to use the topic lists'. Teachers, of all subjects, were given topic lists of 'most likely' topics to come up- basically almost everything and no guarantee the others won't. It's the worst way to create pressure on children and teachers when they are already under enormous pressure- giving 'help' which is no help at all.

Cottonfrenzie · 19/03/2022 20:55

@LuluBlakey1

And you are right OP- what has happened to teenagers, in particular, who are taking exams, has been forgotten about by the government.

DH went to GCSE History exam board conference and was told 'remember to use the topic lists'. Teachers, of all subjects, were given topic lists of 'most likely' topics to come up- basically almost everything and no guarantee the others won't. It's the worst way to create pressure on children and teachers when they are already under enormous pressure- giving 'help' which is no help at all.

That's not what's happening in history though? History have been told they can drop certain units. But not what the topic areas are. So subjects like maths and science who have this information can tailor revision. But history students will need to revise everything they've been taught. In theory there would be longer to revise as they don't need to learn a unit - but in reality not as lockdown content needs reteaching.

I really think all subjects should have had the same approach. It would be fairer.

Cottonfrenzie · 19/03/2022 20:59

I may not be accurate about maths - they've got a formula sheet I think.

Workyticket · 19/03/2022 21:01

@ZenNudist

All my friends who are teachers and test positive take a week off because they can. They haven't been particularly ill. I got a flu thing that took me out for a couple of days recently. Didn't feel like covid but now I'm talking to friends who have "tested positive" it sounds like we all had the same thing. I was ill on the Friday but able to go out on Saturday night. I suspect everyone is used to whole weeks off despite feeling well now.
There are some teachers like this but they are absolutely the minority

I struggled through last week with a banging headache, barely any voice and feeling like shit (negative tests obviously) because my classes are weeks away from their GCSE exams.

They're adults re-sitting (or sitting for the first time in this country) with university places resting on them passing.

My leg would need to be hanging off for me to take time off at this time of the year - the vast majority of my colleagues are rhe same

raspberryjamchicken · 19/03/2022 21:04

I also don’t think a lot of them need to be off for 10 days anymore with a milder variant & vaccines.

It seems the BA.2 variant isn't as mild as Omicron though? Although maybe that is also down to waning vaccination immunity. Whatever the reason, in our school the staff and children who have had it in the past few weeks all seem to have been quite unwell.

13luckyblackcats · 19/03/2022 21:06

Yes to me the enforced absence for covid has made me realise how infrequently I voluntarily take time off when I am ill-my TAs are beside themselves at being off with positive tests, despite feeling rubbish, as they would normally struggle in.

13luckyblackcats · 19/03/2022 21:07

@raspberryjamchicken our current batch off have had d&v with it too, nasty stuff.

GracieLouFreeebush · 19/03/2022 21:10

I’m gutted for my tear 11s. I have two big groups, they had great potential but this has made a mess for them. I’ve had covid twice since Christmas, one time I missed 10 schooldays the second time I missed 4. Unfortunately only shit cover is available so it’s pointless them having lessons planned by me because they do nothing anyway, they were constantly taken to ICT rather than the useful lessons I had planned.

Sherrystrull · 19/03/2022 21:37

@noblegiraffe

I know that the govt have fixed GCSE and A-level results so the impact won't be seen.

Are there any primary school teachers who can say what they are expecting to happen with SATs?

Year 2 are doing sats as normal. They're expected to get the same results they normally do with no excuses...
FoldedCard · 19/03/2022 22:30

@noblegiraffe

The Head doesn't give a shit because there are no league tables.

There will be GCSE league tables this year, which is a joke. Didn't realise primary wasn't having them.

That is a joke. I'd assumed no league tables in secondary as primary aren't being published.

It's stressful enough in primary at the moment - secondary colleagues must be tearing their hair out.

Feenie · 19/03/2022 22:45

There will still be data and progress measures for Ofsted to pick holes in though - just not published.

TigerMTV · 19/03/2022 22:48

@rwalker

Plenty…

Air filtration systems IN EVERY CLASSROOM
Mandatory masks for those who can
Bubbles if necessary
Training supply swathes of supply teachers
Outdoor lessons where possible FGS. About time we thought out of the box
A return to (bi?) weekly testing?

MrsHamlet · 19/03/2022 22:55

I got one of the much vaunted filtration systems after my CO2 monitor was in the danger zone every day by 10am. It's made no discernible difference to the CO2 levels.
We got 6 for the whole school of 1400 across 7 buildings

enterparentone · 20/03/2022 07:33

@MrsHamlet

I got one of the much vaunted filtration systems after my CO2 monitor was in the danger zone every day by 10am. It's made no discernible difference to the CO2 levels. We got 6 for the whole school of 1400 across 7 buildings
I remember reading that air cleaners - whilst great for removing Covid particles - don't affect CO2 so those monitors aren't very useful for checking the air if you're using mechanical cleaning rather than opening a window. Found this: "If you do get an air cleaner, be aware that they don’t remove CO2, so even though the air might be safer, CO2 levels could still be high in the room."

theconversation.com/how-to-use-ventilation-and-air-filtration-to-prevent-the-spread-of-coronavirus-indoors-143732

user1477391263 · 20/03/2022 07:46

It's shit, but I don't see any real solutions here.

user1477391263 · 20/03/2022 07:47

Is there any evidence that the magic air machines actually work? The latest editions of COVID are about as infectious as measles. Pretty much nothing works against viruses like that, in my understanding.

Fishpondinthegarden · 20/03/2022 07:48

We’ve got them in our school. I don’t think they’ve been very effective/

MrsHamlet · 20/03/2022 07:52

Well I've not caught covid yet - but I suspect that's more down to be vaccinated a lot.
My room is like the Sahara all year round so we always have the windows open anyway

QueenofLouisiana · 20/03/2022 08:13

@MrsHamlet that’s exactly what my TA said last week- guess what happened on Friday? Very much hoping you stay healthy!

We don’t have a huge number off, but it is constant, now on kids having it a second time and being unwell when they barely noticed it the first time. I think I’ve had two weeks since September that don’t have covid absence marks in the register!

We don’t have supply staff for some reason, any staff absence is covered by us. Thus I had a 7 minute break on Friday as I covered lunch and playtime. I ate my lunch on the playground.

It’s now impossible to tell who has missed what (at the start I kept a record to catch them up). Oh and the catch up tutor has covid (again, had it before Christmas), so that’s not going terribly well either.

Staff are permanently exhausted. We all threw everything we could into getting the children back on track, because “it’ll soon be over and we can start enjoying things again”, but it isn’t, we can’t and we’re just constantly giving more and more to paper over the cracks.

MrsHamlet · 20/03/2022 08:15

Ah yes... the pressure to "start enjoying things again" aka run clubs for free. Nope. Too busy just getting through the days.

13luckyblackcats · 20/03/2022 09:12

My class have been in a bubble for a week- I have had no lunch or breaks-can't leave them with supply, not that I've had much supply. Just had some more bad staffing news, it literally cannot get worse.

I am taking today off work, spending as much time outside as I can, then going in early tomorrow to come up with a plan.

noblegiraffe · 20/03/2022 10:56

Is there any evidence that the magic air machines actually work?

Calling it a magic air machine suggests that you don't think that they do.

It would be odd if cleaning virus particles out of the air didn't have any impact. We know that opening a window helps.

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