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Schools still a covid shitshow

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noblegiraffe · 19/03/2022 12:40

"Schools have been forced to send year groups home this week because of "rapidly rising" Covid rates among staff and an inability to find supply teachers, it has emerged.

The removal of the need for Covid testing among staff and pupils was making the situation worse, with some schools now experiencing their worst absence levels of the pandemic, a headteachers' leader told Tes.

Heads warn that some schools are having to send year groups home on a rota or combine class groups in an attempt to protect exam year groups from more disruption."

www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/covid-schools-absence-send-year-groups-home-cases-spike

Some will claim that getting rid of testing would improve the situation, but clearly a situation where lots of teachers are getting ill and requiring a few days off school to recover, regardless of isolation rules, is not 'getting back to normal'.

The teachers that I know who have had covid recently would have required a few days off school despite it being 'mild' even without isolation guidance, even though teachers are well-known for dosing on Lemsip and turning up to school regardless of illness because setting cover work is worse.

Still, the covid catch-up effort has basically fizzled out, and it's looking like zero effort will be made by the government to support children in recovering their education from the impact of absences and lack of teachers.

Exams start in a couple of months for kids who are having an extremely disruptive time. The government has fixed the exam grades so that they will come out with better results than the 2019 cohort, this will basically cover up the impact on educational standards. How this will play out down the line at uni/college/sixth form is anyone's guess.

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Eyedropeyeflop · 04/04/2022 15:56

We see those photos every single year though don’t we unfortunately. The Tories have done a fab job dismantling the nhs and education slowly but surely. Rubbing their hands with glee no doubt.

The reasons for those ambulances run a lot deeper than simply just active covid infections that require hospital treatment.

mrshoho · 04/04/2022 16:05

Actually no, we do not see this every year in April. I agree there's the usual Winter pressures that can be bad in particularly challenging years but in this article it is clearly due to covid isolations that is causing the problems.

noblegiraffe · 04/04/2022 16:15

"The NHS is under significant pressure and I don’t think we should allow anyone to imply otherwise.”

Says Chris Whitty.

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Eyedropeyeflop · 04/04/2022 16:18

Wow no shit Chris, when’s it ever not been under significant pressure?

noblegiraffe · 04/04/2022 16:21

Well, if you'd bothered to read the article I linked to that elaborated on his comments, "Ambulance delays at hospitals are at the highest level since December, with a quarter of patients stuck outside A&Es for more than half an hour last week. Elderly admissions have climbed to their highest level since last winter."

So it does seem to be particularly bad right now.

Minimise that.

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Eyedropeyeflop · 04/04/2022 16:28

I didn’t read the article you’re right because they are really really really boring.

Same old every winter (and now spring for good measure).

They may as well just copy and paste, and you did that matter. We have the termly noble covid shit show mumsnet post just as frequently.

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Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 04/04/2022 17:10

Hmm yes. It's boring so let's disregard it.

Eyedropeyeflop · 04/04/2022 17:24

Acceptance really.

Itisasecret · 04/04/2022 17:47

Not the brightest I see.

borntobequiet · 04/04/2022 18:16

Well Covid can’t be affecting the NHS and education, can it, when everything else is going so well? Look at the airlines, barely affected at all…oh wait…

Eyedropeyeflop · 04/04/2022 19:39

People in the NHS and Ed were burnt out long before covid rocked up on our shores.

The reason they’re all on their arses is because of tokenistic isolation measures that achieve nothing other than causing mass disruption.

I mean why people can’t fathom that covid is here to stay forever and a day is beyond me.

I mean it would be great if the NHS and Ed were funded adequately but you know people in this country like to vote Tory!

So yeah, accepting the shit show that is society seems like a fairly rational response if you ask me. Or should we be writing daily letters to our MPs? Yeah that’s really going to work.

Feenie · 04/04/2022 19:40

I didn’t read the article you’re right because they are really really really boring.

My 16 year old has a bigger attention span than you. But then, he has the common sense to see that his GCSEs may well be affected.

mrshoho · 04/04/2022 20:09

Wow if only we all had your wisdom all this disruption would dissappear. So so simple..

BastardtheCat · 04/04/2022 20:24

@Eyedropeyeflop

I didn’t read the article you’re right because they are really really really boring.

Same old every winter (and now spring for good measure).

They may as well just copy and paste, and you did that matter. We have the termly noble covid shit show mumsnet post just as frequently.

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You're rude as fuck.
BastardtheCat · 04/04/2022 20:29

@Eyedropeyeflop

People in the NHS and Ed were burnt out long before covid rocked up on our shores.

The reason they’re all on their arses is because of tokenistic isolation measures that achieve nothing other than causing mass disruption.

I mean why people can’t fathom that covid is here to stay forever and a day is beyond me.

I mean it would be great if the NHS and Ed were funded adequately but you know people in this country like to vote Tory!

So yeah, accepting the shit show that is society seems like a fairly rational response if you ask me. Or should we be writing daily letters to our MPs? Yeah that’s really going to work.

So, by your account, we should just put up and shut up?

"You voted 'em in, so this is your just desserts"?

We need more posters like @noblegiraffe, highlighting these issues. Yes, Health and Ed are woefully unprepared to function properly even before covid, but you seem utterly bored with the topic (and bloody rude with it). All power to posters like Noble who want to continuously shine a light on this shite government instead of burying their heads in the sand like others

Eyedropeyeflop · 05/04/2022 08:01

@BastardtheCat

I work with people on a daily basis who are working very hard against austerity policies. Seems slightly more effective than copy and paste on mumsnet that covid is a shit show.

No one’s listening, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. And if I want to grumble about people voting for Tory I will do.

Piggywaspushed · 05/04/2022 08:41

Who are these people you work with? You have quite the mystery job.

BlackeyedSusan · 05/04/2022 08:46

Fecking hell. Whole class unsupervised in a science lab. School not aware that they did not have a teacher.

Eyedropeyeflop · 05/04/2022 08:57

I work in the charity sector in a field based position which spans public services, nothing that mysterious about it. Worked all over the public sector prior to it including health and ed. Again not that unusual for people to transfer to voluntary sectors.

noblegiraffe · 05/04/2022 09:01

I work with people on a daily basis who are working very hard against austerity policies. Seems slightly more effective than copy and paste on mumsnet that covid is a shit show.

Do you think that posting on MN is my job? Confused

I’m a state school teacher, I also spend my days fighting to mitigate the impact of austerity policies. 🤷‍♀️

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Eyedropeyeflop · 05/04/2022 09:51

No not your paid job but you’re heavily invested in posting on mumsnet which is completely fine, but not sure what the purpose of it is other than just to state the obvious in that covid policies are disrupting education.

I think the government really needs to specify what “living with it” truly means as that interpretation is different for everybody. I presume they want rid of the testing culture that has prevailed in society by charging for tests.

I think that means if you’re well enough to go to work then do so, and that should span all sectors.

I think a lot of society are milking every last bit out of covid for a few more days off work to be honest, but having said that there’s still a lot of fear around it, which we didn’t have for things like flu.

I think it won’t change anytime soon as there’s a heavy culture of fear surrounding it, but that slowly but surely people will have to accept that it’s here to stay and mitigations are pointless.

mrshoho · 05/04/2022 12:10

No not your paid job but you’re heavily invested in posting on mumsnet which is completely fine, but not sure what the purpose of it is other than just to state the obvious in that covid policies are disrupting education.

School staff have been stating the obvious about what would happen in schools when the covid mitigations (however minimal they were) were removed. For some reason many posters on here seemed to think it was the restrictions that was causing the problem. We are living with it and unsurprisingly staff are getting ill and unable to teach and children are not receiving the education they need. the majority may be in school but it's far from normal.

So I think it is important to continue to state the obvious even though people like you are bored and don't care.

Eyedropeyeflop · 05/04/2022 12:12

The covid mitigations? lip service in schools.

Ineffective.

noblegiraffe · 05/04/2022 13:37

No not your paid job but you’re heavily invested in posting on mumsnet which is completely fine, but not sure what the purpose of it is other than just to state the obvious in that covid policies are disrupting education.

You seem heavily invested in following me around telling me I shouldn’t bother posting because it’s pointless, while at the same time consistently saying that the problem in schools is ‘covid policies’, denying that covid itself is an issue.

Why do you do that?

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borntobequiet · 05/04/2022 13:39

I posted this on March 22nd. Just been raised as a concern on R4 World at One today.

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