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We visited DH in intensive care on Sunday...my DD just tested positive

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Lalaland50 · 18/03/2022 18:48

So, my DH is in intensive care with serious complications after a stem cell transplant (heart failure and failure of engraftment). He is stable, and his fantastic team is investigating options to improve his situation. However, we visited on Sunday afternoon....all negative LFTs, and although we were wearing masks (only the blue ones), my DD9 cuddled my DH and we were there for a few hours.

Now she's tested positive for covid - symptoms started last night and positive test around 5pm today. And now I think about it, I have been feeling super tired over the last few days (testing negative though).

The hospital know and although they did a pCR test on Tuesday which was negative, will do another one this evening. I am so paranoid that he has caught it from us though. Does anyone know anything about incubation period, I'm googling and getting a lot of different answers. He's been asleep all day today (unusual for him even in ITU) and I'm worried we've both got the same symptoms.

I have no idea where my DD caught it - there are 15 cases in her school and she was in a play on Saturday afternoon and does an activity on Monday night.

I know no-one can tell me for sure, but any knowledge about incubation time would be good to hear. thanks.

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Lalaland50 · 18/03/2022 18:49

I also meant to add, he is the most vulnerable of the vulnerable, he literally has no immune system, and a poorly functioning heart which is why I am so worried.

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LizDoingTheCanCan · 18/03/2022 18:59

Transmission rates are so high at the moment, that if he does test positive, it could equally be from any of the staff. Please don't beat yourself up over the possibility you might have passed it to him, that's far from certain.

I hope he continues to test negative, and his condition improves as well as can be expected.

LizDoingTheCanCan · 18/03/2022 19:04

We were in a similar position last year, visits so rare, but equally so scared of passing on covid. Even more frustrating when we keep being told that everything is back to normal.

(In hindsight, the visits had more benefit than the risk. Contact with loved ones is so important.)

Bearyhumcrack · 18/03/2022 19:04

What Liz said. Also remember how much the visit and cuddles must have meant to him and contributed to his wellbeing.

All of my best wishes to you and your family OP, and prayers, if you wish to accept them.

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Lalaland50 · 18/03/2022 19:06

Thank you. Yes, all gratefully accepted.

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dementedpixie · 18/03/2022 19:08

When contact tracing they would normally look at contacts in the previous 2 days so you would be out of timescale if your visit was on Sunday

impossible · 18/03/2022 19:11

If your DH has caught COVID it could have come from a number of sources, not necessarily you or DD.

You did everything right. Don't beat yourself up.

Incognito32 · 18/03/2022 19:16

For Omicron I think you're absolutely fine. It was as fast as a 2 day incubation period for us. We had a social gathering. One person tested positive, the following day and the day after that people started coming down with symptoms and positive LFTs. If your DD tested positive today - chances are she picked it up this week.

She could have picked it up at the hospital on Sunday. Plus you were all masked up. I don't know anyone who had caught it when being in a masked up situation.

Don't worry xx

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Lalaland50 · 18/03/2022 19:21

OK thanks all. Just another worry to occupy myself with. I am hoping she picked it up at school after our visit. But even if she had caught it from someone on Saturday, say, would she have been contagious enough to pass it on ?on Sunday (negative LFT and no symptoms)

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Mummyoflittledragon · 18/03/2022 19:31

Infection to symptoms is circa 3 days according to this. If she got it on Saturday, she probably wouldn’t have been infectious. More likely that she got it this week inews.co.uk/news/how-long-does-covid-take-to-show-when-omicron-symptoms-start-incubation-period-and-how-long-its-infectious-1422582

User1367349 · 18/03/2022 19:55

I’m so sorry, you must be so worried.

All I can say is that, from what I have read, a negative lateral flow is a very hopeful indication that even if you are coming down with covid you are not hugely infectious yet. No one here can promise anything, but you haven’t been reckless. Try not to worry.

Rainbowsandstorms · 18/03/2022 20:07

As others have said covid rates are so high right now that if he did have it’s very possible he picked it up from someone else. I’m pretty hot on all things covid and transmission etc and I would think that timeframe is relatively low risk. Omicron has a pretty short incubation period (the current dominant version of omicron has an even shorter incubation period) and although it can take a few days to show up on a lft I don’t think there is a high risk with the timeframes. I lived with and cuddled my daughter the first time she had covid and I didn’t pick it up so transmission is never a given. Visits are so important, she had a mask on, didn’t spend the whole day with him and the timeframe means she was at point where it’s a smaller chance of her having been able to pass it on, while the negative lft means that even if she did have it at that point she didn’t have a large viral load. There are lots of protective factors there. I hope everyone stays well and your DH is out of icu soon.

Frazzled2207 · 18/03/2022 20:11

Negative lft on Sunday would have meant very low viral load. Incubation period is definitely quite short so if she’s gone down today it’s very unlikely she would have been infectious on Sunday.

I hope your dh continues to recover and remains negative. OP did you have another thread last months about your dp? It looks like he is improving which is very welcome news.

Strawberry33 · 18/03/2022 20:20

I think it should be fine. I work in a secure psychiatric hospital so during covid was literally locked in with covid patients. It takes around 5 days on average from exposure to symptoms
or a positive test. I think it’s very likely daughter and you were not infectious enough at the time to have passed it on. I remember a time when in the first lockdown a patient breathed all over me and complained of a headache. I took their vitals and so was very close. Two days later they tested positive and ten days after that went into another hospital on a ventilator for 11 weeks! I never developed covid ever in this whole pandemic and I test every two days. I don’t think you are infectious straight away and viral load has to reach a certain amount x

imisscashmere · 18/03/2022 20:23

I think if you all had negative lfts before visiting him it is highly unlikely he could have caught it from you.

My DH had a negative lft (third party administered) a few hours before he drove my parents home for 3 hours (ie small unventilated space, no masks). That night he felt shivery and unwell. He went to get a PCR the next morning and it was positive.

I was convinced we had given my elderly parents covid. However, they tested negative daily for the next ten or so days, and they never developed any symptoms. The explanation is apparently that a negative test means your viral load - at that point in time - is too low to transmit the virus.

Hopefully that’s reassuring - you’ve done all you could to keep him safe.

Blogblogblogblog · 18/03/2022 20:48

Everyone we know recently was 48hours so don’t worry it’s very very unlikely you could have had it then. Put this worry out of your mind

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Lalaland50 · 18/03/2022 21:05

Thank you all for the reassurance. I really appreciate it. I've been worrying about it and been so careful for 2 years - he was diagnosed with lymphoma in April 2020. But for now, I just have to think, she had a negative LFT on that day, so even if she was carrying the virus, it hopefully wouldn't be enough to infect him. The dr who I spoke to was really nice too, and said that he's in the right place to get any anti-virals he might need if he did turn out to be positive.

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bumpytrumpy · 18/03/2022 21:43

It's more likely she caught it from the hospital while visiting him! Timelines don't add up for her to have been contagious on Sunday, you don't need to worry about that. I hope your husband remains stable.

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Lalaland50 · 18/03/2022 21:55

@Frazzled2207 yes, it was me. He left intensive care, only to go back a week later, so he's been there nearly 2 weeks now. They still don't know why the transplant hasn't worked, and has been left with heart failure and related problems, but still holding out hope that they will get to the bottom of it.

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nether · 18/03/2022 22:06

They'll be throwing MABs and antivirals into him like no-ones business. Patients in ICU can get prophylactic MABs (or different ones to the main scheme) so I hope they're on to that - a good intensivist working with a good haematologist should be able to get state of the art prescribing

I'm so sorry - it's just been one damned thing after another for you

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 18/03/2022 22:10

For original covid, the incubation period was usually 5 or 6 days (range 2-14). For omicron it's rather shorter, typically 2-4 days.

It's Friday, and DD last saw him on Sunday. So I think it's likely that your DD came into contact with covid after that visit.

lottiegarbanzo · 18/03/2022 22:12

Omicron is infection to symptoms in 2-4 days, often very fast, so it's not long enough for that.

Frazzled2207 · 18/03/2022 22:19

[quote Lalaland50]@Frazzled2207 yes, it was me. He left intensive care, only to go back a week later, so he's been there nearly 2 weeks now. They still don't know why the transplant hasn't worked, and has been left with heart failure and related problems, but still holding out hope that they will get to the bottom of it.[/quote]
I really hope there are positive developments soon.

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