Shocking revelations about how patients have been seen

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dailysceptic.org/2022/02/03/how-many-pregnant-women-have-actually-died-of-covid-19/

What have we done as a society?

During the pandemic I was sent for routine medical tests. I was surprised as my area was in a very extended lockdown.

To hear that sick pregnant women couldn't be seen by health professionals really makes me upset. To know this resulted in horrific deaths is very sobering.

Some of the details listed are quite concerning. Patients only having a consultation by phone, so very obvious things missed. Why have we allowed this?

Is your GP doing face to face appointments yet?

Is your GP doing face to face appointments yet?

My GP has always done face to face appointments when necessary. Even during the first lockdown.

Same, face to face always available throughout. My husband had stitches taken out by the nurse at our practice despite having Covid. They just had a special room and the nurse was all suited up in full protective gear. If my gp could carry on I don’t understand why so many others couldn’t (staff shortages not withstanding)

My gp has sent out frequent texts basically saying don't call us unless it's an emergency. On top of the disturbingly frequent we are closed for training messages.

They did at one point use e consult which going by the next door app thing caused alot of problems.

I've no doubt many people went unseen.

As fir call in an emergency, well we arent qualified to determine an emergency or we'd be the bloody dr.

I mean obviously if u keel over you'd call an ambulance but at that point you'd he hitting a&e anyway. The whole point of the drs is to avoid a&e isn't it?

Everyone else has been back at work for months

Shocking really. My GP has been wonderful throughout, we don't have much call on their services usually but during the pandemic DH has had a vasectomy plus face to face follow up appointments, I have had a smear, a breast examination resulting in hospital referral and DDs have been seen for minor ailments requiring anti-biotics. Our service has actually been better than pre-covid as we now get a call on the day you ring up, and then face to face if needed. Prior to covid, on the day appts were rare and often a 2 week wait for a routine one.

The article, by anonymous, linked is too vague and has too much of this kind of thing going on.
"I don’t think they were included in the ten, but the insinuation about restrictions is there again"

"Insinuation" by the author is all a bit iffy

So is this talking about pregnant women dying for other reasons than from Covid?

‘it is abundantly clear that very few of these women died from actual Covid – many appear to be victims of the restrictions and fear – and the handful that did had significant confounding factors.’

Is final summary

The 'Daily Sceptic' has other articles saying the mRNA vaccine is 'gene therapy'.
This is complete and utter bollocks.

The fear stopping women going in must be a major factor. I was watching one of those ambulance programs recently and there was a pregnant woman featured. It was her 7th child, her waters had gone (possibly with meconium) and she had not felt the baby move. This was at least a day. Her reasoning being that she didn't want to go to the hospital. Thankfully there was a happy outcome, but it could have gone so wrong.

A mixture of being scared of catching covid or knowing you might have no support would have been very off putting.

I dont agree with you op.
But i do think going forward
If pg women dont get vaxxed there will be unnecessary death.
With covid as a factor even if people see gp f2f there will be extra deaths in uk as the gps arent that great , they dont test for stuff eg strep, they couldnt see my dd ear infection. So when kids have a temp or adults they could now also be covid so will covid always be blamed? This is also an isye with mis-c /pims as for that ongoing temp the drs have to rule out everything else and ive seen several very ill kids have appendix removed. So when we stop testing qe wont know what was caused by covid ie when to worry.
Dc2 had before xmas a temp sore eyes lethargy. Luckily all fune but i can see how it would be blmed on current covid once there is no testing.

I don't think this kind of scenario is unlikely, and it should be looked at more carefully. Where I live, outside of the UK, we have simultaneously had a reduction of diagnoses of melanoma, an an increase in deaths. And this is not because the doctors that deal with these things were actually unavailable it was simply because people were avoiding going to doctors or felt that with phone appointments being preferred, they should wait.

As a result they are not being caught in time. This could easily happen with pregnancy as well if women are not being seen, either because they are turned away, are being given phone appointments, or are not bothering because of fear or not wanting to burden the system.

Our GP service is rubbish and has worsened during covid, but we haven't been much affected. However, talking to two elderly neighbours last week really was sobering. Both have issues that require GP assistance and have struggled to get through in the first place and then to get seen. It did make me very fearful of the number of serious health issues being missed in my area because they make it so difficult for you to get an appointment in the first place, and then extremely tricky to get seen in person, or to get seen consistently by the same GP.

Telephone consultation only where I am, then they decide if they want to see you, oh and youre triaged by a nurse or receptionist now.

My GP is doing face to face but in order to be seen you have to phone, get a phone appointment 3 weeks hence, then persuade the GP that they really need to see you.

There was a story on the news in Scotland yesterday about a man who "saw" his GP with a cough during the first lockdown, was prescribed antibiotics. Cough turned out to be lung cancer which has now progressed to terminal.

I’ve had lots of face to face appointments. Yes, you have to have a phone appointment with the doctor first and then they decide if they need to see you. Phone appointment is the same day, f2f may be later that day or a few days later. If you think the appointment isn’t important, you wait two weeks for a phone appointment.