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Will they actually go ahead with the not having to isolate?

145 replies

Needtogoonholiday · 03/02/2022 19:32

Do we think that it will actually happen in March. The not having to isolate if you've got it?

I wonder if testing will stop?

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WhateverHappenedToFayWray · 04/02/2022 10:02

@2tired2bewitty

Having just spent 10 days stuck at home with no more than the mildest of cold symptoms, I really hope so. I’m also still testing positive on day 11, so not really sure what the point was 🤷‍♀️
Well, I've just been really ill with it. I still can't sleep lying down because of how breathless I get. So just because you were fine that doesn't mean that everyone will experience the same as you. It's to protect other people.
Toanewstart22 · 04/02/2022 10:04

Fingers crossed!

Toanewstart22 · 04/02/2022 10:06

@WhateverHappenedToFayWray

Sorry you were “really I’ll with it”

But I was also “really I’ll” with A cold recently

I didn’t expect anyone including me to have to isolate because of it

Needtogoonholiday · 04/02/2022 10:06

But people are catching it anyway, even with the isolation rules in place.

I don't know many people now that haven't had it.

As a pp said, it would be more realistic now to have something like staying off for 48 hours if you have a temperature, wfh if you can, stay away from the vulnerable.

People would be more likely to stick to it.

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treeflowercat · 04/02/2022 10:07

The difficulty with restrictions being removed is that illness is no longer taken seriously, and if you’re genuinely ill with Covid you aren’t guaranteed any time off work.

If we tested for the flu (and by that I mean the influenza virus) we'd have the same thing... Most flu is asymptomatic or very mild, but obviously not all is... However, in common parlance, "flu" is synonymous with being too I'll to work... being bedridden with a high fever.

We probably need to go back to reporting our symptoms, and giving that a name such as "flu", rather than the precise virus that's causing it.

So you'd no longer say you had Covid, but had "a high fever and muscle weakness"... Some employers will never be sympathetic, but it might help.

treeflowercat · 04/02/2022 10:08

@megletthesecond

I wish they'd just say that if you have it don't go to any indoors public venues (shops, workplaces etc).

At least let people go for a walk where there is zero chance of transmission. If I get it I'll be walking around the park.

That's what lots of people do now... They apply common sense.
WonderfulYou · 04/02/2022 10:09

I have it. I was quite bad the first couple of days and still feel ‘off’ but not enough to be off work when they’ve got barely any staff in due to do many being unvaccinated.

My worry is that I’ll go back and be positive and then spread it to everyone else.
But we’re struggling to cope with so many staff off so I need to go back.

We have a few staff who are unvaccinated.
Every time they come into work they have to leave the same day and have 10 days off, even though they’re not positive. Most have only been in 2/3 times since the beginning of term.

A better option would have been to not isolate if you’re not positive - then after a few weeks push it up to isolating if you’re positive.

This country is awful at getting rid of the rules and then bringing them back in. Why not just decrease the rules slowly.

Siameasy · 04/02/2022 10:14

Feel rough isn’t fun but I do sense a bit of irrational fear of being bed bound. It’s grim yes but I guarantee you in life you will have a few illnesses like that as it is part of life.
DD actually had some more full-on Covid symptoms, temp of 39, delirium and hallucinations as well as vomiting 6 times. The next day it was like it had never happened. Her experience was unusual based on peers.

containsnuts · 04/02/2022 10:35

It could be an easier transition for the UK than in other countries. Our government have stubbornly stuck with testing for the three classic symtoms that have been outdated for over a year so loads of people have been unknowingly spreading it with cold like symptoms anyway - which is what will continue to happen.

bluetongue · 04/02/2022 10:48

I’m actually kind of jealous about this. Here in Australia restrictions are getting lifted at a glacial rate. Even though I’m triple jabbed I still have to isolate for seven days if I’m a close contact. Isolation for positive cases is ten days.

Households are limited to having 10 people in them at once including visitors and singing and dancing is banned. On top of all that all the politicians here seem to live masks and have made comments in the last couple of days about them being mandated for the foreseeable future Sad

I look at the countries around the world dropping restrictions and it just feels so suffocating here. Part of me wants to jump on a plane just to go somewhere ‘normal’ for a while (at least we’re allowed to leave the country now).

WhateverHappenedToFayWray · 04/02/2022 10:50

[quote Toanewstart22]@WhateverHappenedToFayWray

Sorry you were “really I’ll with it”

But I was also “really I’ll” with A cold recently

I didn’t expect anyone including me to have to isolate because of it[/quote]
I was really ill , I was coughing up blood. I can post some pictures if you'd like to see?

Tynetime · 04/02/2022 11:02

I think the situation probably is bad in schools but they are not telling parents. Dd1 year 13 has been without a Teacher for 3 weeks for the second time this year. A different subject this time. He had COVID and is still poorly. School have arranged for a Teacher who normally teacher GCSE to cover Some lessons. It is shit for DDs cohort who are sitting exams in a matter of months.
Sadly I think it may get worse in March.

Toanewstart22 · 04/02/2022 11:05

@WhateverHappenedToFayWray

Hospitalised?

user1487194234 · 04/02/2022 11:11

I think some people have no idea the pressure some employers put on their employees not to mention zero hours contracts
And not always easy to just get another job
Completely different from say a local government job with full pay when sick

ChildHeadache · 04/02/2022 11:12

Its bi bizarre that Oz has been so strict but (according to another thread) victoria is allowing covidy people to leave isolation on day 7 if no symptoms. My family will be testingnpositive up to day 10 at this rate so not leaving (pointless) isolation until day 11...

ChildHeadache · 04/02/2022 11:13

Im 0 hours and lost pay. 😔

tigger1001 · 04/02/2022 11:15

@user1487194234

I think some people have no idea the pressure some employers put on their employees not to mention zero hours contracts And not always easy to just get another job Completely different from say a local government job with full pay when sick
I do get what you are saying, but it's not a reason to keep isolation.

Shit employers do exist. They existed before covid. And they are likely the ones putting pressure on employees to not isolate despite the current rules.

But we can't keep isolating people who are well enough to work. That's just not feasible long term. Its hurting employers, and people can't afford it.

user1487194234 · 04/02/2022 11:28

I am totally in favour of ending isolation

treeflowercat · 04/02/2022 11:39

@user1487194234

I think some people have no idea the pressure some employers put on their employees not to mention zero hours contracts And not always easy to just get another job Completely different from say a local government job with full pay when sick
True, but there are hundreds of reasons other than Covid why someone may not be well enough to work, so I don't see why Covid should be treated differently in this regards.
Rooroobear · 04/02/2022 12:16

Tbf isolation seems pointless at the moment. So many people will have had it and not realised or just woke up with a sniffle and just carried on. It can’t go on forever. People won’t be able to afford to be off and employers won’t pay if they don’t have to. The cost of living is going through the roof and people will just go to work regardless because they will have no choice

user1487194234 · 04/02/2022 12:17

Indeed

Blubells · 04/02/2022 12:28

For those who choose to be unvaccinated it's going to be a tough one. Guess they will just have to keep testing all the time maybe?

Why?

Orchid876 · 04/02/2022 13:41

@WonderfulYou well that's just ridiculous. Even if they don't lift the isolate rules, they really really need to scrap the close contact isolation rules for the unvaccinated. What are employers supposed to do? They can't fire unvaccinated staff, or refuse to employ based on vaccination status, but how can constant isolation be sustainable? Given the pressure it puts everyone else under when someone is off, if we had a member of staff who was constantly isolating because they were unvaccinated (by choice), they would not be popular, with anyone. I cannot imagine having a conversation with my Headteacher along the lines of "sorry, I have chosen not to be vaccinated, so I'll be isolating (when there's nothing wrong with me) again". Even if I couldn't be fired for that, I'm 💯 sure they'd find some other reason to get rid of me. I wonder how the Unions are dealing with this?

IcedPurple · 04/02/2022 14:01

Yes, and not before time.

VikingOnTheFridge · 04/02/2022 14:44

I would think the unvaccinated isolation issue is probably going to ebb away as widespread testing access does.

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