Australia's deadliest day for Covid

[Jacaranda75]

In NSW alone there were 35 deaths yesterday. From the start of the pandemic there has consistently been just a handful of deaths per day. This is a MASSIVE jump.

How can anybody say we are getting out of this? And that Omicron is less severe?

It always was going to increase once Australia "opened up' and wiĺl continue to.

I am suprirsed they have done so without access to lft or pcr tests though!

Are you in Australia? Have all restrictions gone? Are schools just going back? I followed a lot initially but haven't recently.

@DaisyTheUnicorn

It always was going to increase once Australia "opened up' and wiĺl continue to.

I am suprirsed they have done so without access to lft or pcr tests though!

Are you in Australia? Have all restrictions gone? Are schools just going back? I followed a lot initially but haven't recently.

Everything is pretty much open. Masks still inside. Schools start on Monday

And our school gave us RATs to test the kids every Monday and Thursday

@DaisyTheUnicorn some schools went back today. Others next week. Parents have been asked to test their DC twice a week. Schools are giving out LFTs.

Ah that makes more sense. Last time I looked they were really hard to get hold of and people were queuing for testing!

What is the mood like, are people worried or just resigned to it all?

@Whichjab people just want to get on with their lives. Although we are constantly being told that Omicron is mild, so are a bit shocked at the high death rates.

[quote Jacaranda75]@Whichjab people just want to get on with their lives. Although we are constantly being told that Omicron is mild, so are a bit shocked at the high death rates.[/quote]
Every death is sad clearly but 35 deaths in a day when you've been registering around 100,000 cases per day isn't bad at all. Omicron is mild for most, especially if you've been vaccinated, but not everyone will have been, and there will be some very old and vulnerable for whom omicron was the last straw.

With Covid or from Covid? Do they falsely count like we do?

Australia is HUGE!! 35 is a tiny number and who knows if they died with it .. or of it!!

Also, the "massive" jump is a few weeks after you began your "massive" jump in cases, so it would be surprising if there wasn't such an increase. Look at other countries deaths and you'll no longer be so surprised.

@treeflowercat I don't think they have been registering 100,000 cases per day jin NSW and those deaths won't relate to the very recent spike. Also I believe they register positive tests not cases.
Sadly it will probably get worse before it gets better although good to see cases reducing.

Chances are a lot of those 35 were unvaccinated and/or had other health issues.

Nobody I know is really concerned, everyone is vaxxed, half my friends have had it or have it now, I can't believe I haven't tbh, I've been living a full and normal life, out at restaurants, boy in vacation care, seeing friends only wearing masks where mandatory.

School is back on Tuesday, they are providing two rat tests per student per week for the first two weeks back as I understand. This is a request not a requirement.

Case numbers are high, but I think hospitalisation is stabilised so this may be the peak, bar another when school returns.

@Pootle40

With Covid or from Covid? Do they falsely count like we do?

The U.K. doesn't falsely report. The official deaths "are those within 28 days of a Covid test." Some people may misinterpret that data and imply these all relate to "deaths from Covid" but that's different, in the same way that some people misinterpret the data in the other direction to artificially minimise deaths by selectively choosing data.

The ONS analyse the data further. Earlier in the pandemic, over 90% of "official"
deaths were found to have had Covid as the proximate cause. Equally, there were some deaths from Covid that occurred over the 28 day period, so the official deaths figures were a decent proxy for the true impact of Covid on deaths.

That's being stretched now though with vaccination and omicron. A far higher proportion of Covid deaths are incidental,
and the reported figures are likely to be an overestimate of true Covid deaths, but this is not some conspiracy to make us all fearful, as clearly the U.K. Government are wanting the opposite in their keenness to remove restrictions.

[quote Tynetime]@treeflowercat I don't think they have been registering 100,000 cases per day jin NSW and those deaths won't relate to the very recent spike. Also I believe they register positive tests not cases.
Sadly it will probably get worse before it gets better although good to see cases reducing.[/quote]
Sorry, the 100,000 was for Australia as a whole.... But if the U.K. is a good comparator, only about 1/2 to 1/3 of infections will have been registered, so 100,000 per day is plausibly a decent estimate of the actual number of infections in NSW.

@Remmy123 the 35 is NSW not Australia. Although I think in tge UK we would think 35 was a low number as we are used to much higher figures...Also I font think they have regularly had 100,000 positive test results not cases in NSW.

Cross Post.

Sorry interesting nobles to data

Notes. Bloody phone playing up.

@Pootle40 ICNARC data also confirms that of those in ICU with a positive test between 91 and 96% have COVID as their main reason for admission.

Omicron is milder but it's more contagious. Australia has suppressed the less contagious variants of Covid for so long, but suppressing Omicron is almost impossible. So that will result in more deaths. This was bound to start happening.

I'd say cases in australia are probably 50% higher than reported due to lack of tests available.

@treeflowercat if only it was some people, they have been 'falsely' used by govt and media to create hysteria since the beginning of the pandemic.......

@CovidCorvid NSW health are very transparent with their data and 23 out of the 35 had received either 3 or 2 doses of the vaccine.
NSW has 94% of over 16 vaccinated.