Page 18 | Why are Sainsbury's (and others) asking for continued mask wearing?

jowly · 2022-01-26T23:22:34+00:00

To keep their staff well? ( many don't wear one even now) To give customers a sense of security? I'm very willing to wear one if there's a reasonable reason to.. and I get all the theories why we may be wise to. But why are supermarkets going for this request? Why is it in their interest? Am I missing the obvious?

Theworldisfullofgs · 30/01/2022 22:24

I spent my Friday night metaphorically picking a health service worker up off the floor because it's awful. Covid cases aren't coming down, like in other waves and have plateaued. They are having outbreaks all over the hospital and are trying to catch up with backlogs of patients whose illnesses are more severe.
We're being told we don't have to wear masks when it's only just been confirmed it's a respiratory disease.

Personally, I would say wearing a mask is a responsible thing to do.

GirlInACountrySong · 30/01/2022 22:27

theres plenty that vulnerable people can do to keep themselves safe. their own masks, not flimsy ones. distancing and hygiene

then the rest of us can get on with our lives, take our kids out and go to work

in a few weeks people who have covid will be free to go to public places maskless...isnt it better vulnerable people learn to manage their expectations and covid prevention measures now, before its set free into every part of our community?

GirlInACountrySong · 30/01/2022 22:27

only just confirmed its a respiratory disease?

burstcouch · 30/01/2022 22:29

My company (hospitality) is still mandating staff wearing masks, even if exempt they have to wear visors. Monica or buts. It's been the same since the start of the pandemic.

GirlInACountrySong · 30/01/2022 22:31

if you are exempt then you should not be made to wear visors!!! they are as bad

me109f · 30/01/2022 22:54

It is to protect customers. They are being cautious and very sensible.

Rosscameasdoody · 30/01/2022 23:00

@GirlInACountrySong

theres plenty that vulnerable people can do to keep themselves safe. their own masks, not flimsy ones. distancing and hygiene

then the rest of us can get on with our lives, take our kids out and go to work

in a few weeks people who have covid will be free to go to public places maskless...isnt it better vulnerable people learn to manage their expectations and covid prevention measures now, before its set free into every part of our community?

And how do you .’manage your expectations’ when you have a consultant telling you it’s not over and that you still need to shield as much as you can ? I’ve been managing my ‘Covid prevention measures’ for two years now - vulnerable does not mean stupid.

milkyaqua · 30/01/2022 23:03

@GirlInACountrySong

only just confirmed its a respiratory disease?

I'm sorry, what?

GirlInACountrySong · 31/01/2022 00:28

@Rosscameasdoody then you listen to your consultant as I'm guessing you have done all along

Nobody said the vulnerable were stupid? Wasting energy complaining people won't wear masks is not helping.

GirlInACountrySong · 31/01/2022 00:30

@milkyaqua I was looking from clarification from @Theworldisfullofgs

Theworldisfullofgs · 31/01/2022 08:24

GirlInACountrySong

only just confirmed its a respiratory disease. I know it's ridiculous and yes, only just confirmed officially that's its airborne rather than picked up via surfaces.

HarrietteNightingale · 31/01/2022 09:33

There was no encouragement at all today in the big Sainsbury's I was in. it was about 50/50 - staff and customers.

Also SE and exactly the same here. The "wear a mask" sign was to one side coming into the store, so it wasn't clearly visible at the entrance.

milkyaqua · 31/01/2022 21:41

@Theworldisfullofgs

GirlInACountrySong

only just confirmed its a respiratory disease. I know it's ridiculous and yes, only just confirmed officially that's its airborne rather than picked up via surfaces.

It has always been a respiratory disease!

It is also a vascular disease and a multi-organ disease. It has been known to be airborne for a long time, but proven earlier last year by a number of studies. There were already studies showing the fomite transmission risk was overstated by mid-2020.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/02/2022 18:51

[quote GirlInACountrySong]@Rosscameasdoody then you listen to your consultant as I'm guessing you have done all along

Nobody said the vulnerable were stupid? Wasting energy complaining people won't wear masks is not helping. [/quote]
No I agree - and a prime minister who is happy to throw CEV people under a bus against scientific evidence to save his own skin isn’t helping either.

GirlInACountrySong · 01/02/2022 23:55

Next month people with covid will be out in the streets, at work, in the shops... both masked and unmasked

I'm not sure a flimsy mask will be of much use.

When isolation goes we are all on our own, Boris included

PickAChew · 02/02/2022 00:18

Half of my household currently has covid. I don't have any of the big 3 symptoms and my tests are negative but I'm sure most people wouldn't thank me for standing a foot behind them with no mask on if they ended up ill in a week's time which it is perfectly legal for me to do, despite the fact that I have sore eyes and stronger than usual joint pain.

Zonder · 02/02/2022 03:04

@PickAChew

Half of my household currently has covid. I don't have any of the big 3 symptoms and my tests are negative but I'm sure most people wouldn't thank me for standing a foot behind them with no mask on if they ended up ill in a week's time which it is perfectly legal for me to do, despite the fact that I have sore eyes and stronger than usual joint pain.

You are far more considerate than our government.

GirlInACountrySong · 02/02/2022 07:05

@PickAChew

Half of my household currently has covid. I don't have any of the big 3 symptoms and my tests are negative but I'm sure most people wouldn't thank me for standing a foot behind them with no mask on if they ended up ill in a week's time which it is perfectly legal for me to do, despite the fact that I have sore eyes and stronger than usual joint pain.

You may well end up positive

Nobody will thank us for walking around positive! Feels weird to think it will even be happening

But with no sick pay for some or nobody able to take another sick period off work, we'll, there's no option

puppetear · 02/02/2022 08:33

Nobody will thank us for walking around positive!

You'll still hear muffled howls and cries on this board, but if you ask around IRL, I doubt too many folk will give a hoot either way. They're probably more concerned about making plans for a getaway in the Easter holidays. Life moves on.

But with no sick pay for some or nobody able to take another sick period off work, we'll, there's no option

Really? There's the infrastructure as for any other illness.

Most folk that would have been affected will have been vaccinated. For those that won't or can't, isn't Covid the same as a bad flu or noro?

Is Covid really still a special concern for people in the medical sense? Only thing I can think is that there's a hangover of worry due to the "deadly virus" campaigns.

Zonder · 02/02/2022 08:41

@puppetear I find your post really shocking.

For a start you know there isn't an infrastructure for lots of people? You know that there's no furlough now and nothing for self employed people? I had covid recently and despite being triple jabbed I couldn't work for over a week. Fortunately I'm not SE.

Secondly you know people are still getting very sick and even dying of covid? Mostly those unjabbed but nevertheless it's not totally harmless.

GirlInACountrySong · 02/02/2022 12:46

Infrastructure? For sickness?

Plenty of my colleagues have used up sickness to the point one more could put their job on the line

So if they have covid and they feel ok, they will come into work and not risk the disciplinary/job loss

puppetear · 02/02/2022 16:14

Sorry you’re right.

I should have said that the sick time regime for covid should be the same as for comparable illnesses such as flu, etc.

You’re of course right that at present you’re required to isolate, and that can make it difficult if your employer isn’t accommodating. So the choice is between breaking the rules or as you say, putting jobs on the line.

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