Can I demand AZ vaccine at 33

[Indigofig]

I have been told by my local surgery that I can only have Pfizer or Moderna due to my age, but I don't want an mRNA vaccine and I prefer an older more researched vaccine. Could anyone advise on this? Thanks

I had two AZ vaccines during pregnancy, and delivered my baby fine last month - we’re both healthy. That said; there’s a lot more data on Pfizer and pregnancy, as there’s masses of US data alongside the limited U.K. data.

'Demand'?hmmm nice attitude!

AZ is pretty rubbish. There's a reason why no other countries used it.

I think you need to do a lot more research tbh. AZ doesn't have the same risk / benefit for someone your age and specifically against omicron.

MRNA vaccines have been in development a very long time. The reason the covid vaccines (all of them) became available so quickly isn't because of shoddy research or unsafe practices it's because the entire world poured energy and money and time into making them. Other vaccines are not made because the first world don't care enough to make them.

No vaccines are completely safe, just like nothing in life is but the getting the Pfizer vaccine is safer than catching covid especially if you are considering pregnancy or already pregnant. A woman local to me got covid and had to give birth at 27 weeks, she was in ICU and the baby was in NICU for a very long time. She was young and perfectly healthy. I fully appreciate this is just one case but pregnancy and covid are not a good mix at all.

@Indigofig

This was from the WHO website regarding Novavax: Data regarding the safety and efficacy of the use of Novavax (NVX-CoV2373) vaccine in pregnant women is not yet available.

I am still looking for pregnancy and AZ.

Novavax isn't an mRNA vaccine.

The AZ vaccine is just as much a novel technology as mRNA. It uses a viral vector (a chimp adenovirus) which is really not traditional at all.

The safety profile of both AZ and the mRNA vaccines is excellent, with the mRNAs having greater efficacy and lower risk of some specific types of very rare blood clots.

You may be able to persuade your GP to arrange for an AZ vaccine - they are still available for people who can't have vaccines with the excipients in the mRNA vaccines - but from a risk/benefit point of view they are likely to think it's inadvisable.

Your beliefs about these vaccines are not well-informed and are not logical.

I've asked a few test centres and they said no to me and that the only way I can do it is with a letter from the GP or I can get Moderna. In the end I got Pfizer done after contracting Delta unvaccinated and it was one of the first thing I did when my 28 days were completed after my first symptom which was to get vaccinated.

@Indigofig

This was from the WHO website regarding Novavax: Data regarding the safety and efficacy of the use of Novavax (NVX-CoV2373) vaccine in pregnant women is not yet available.

I am still looking for pregnancy and AZ.

Thats because it is only just coming out of trials (max of 15,000 in the UK). Trialists had to sign to say they wouldn't get pregnant in that year, obviously some have, but nowhere near enough to use for trial data. I know of 3 trialists who have got pregnant and are fine, but that's just anecdotal.

In my opinion you will not find anyone who can give (due to no supply) and will give you AZ.

@UnmentionedElephantDildo love your username ... but re your comments ..., we aren’t talking about the risk of clots with covid v AZ we are taking about the risk of an mRNA vaccination v AZ. An mRNA vaccine has less risk of serious side effects and specifically VITT than AZ which was the point I was making. This is why under 40s were given mRNA vaccinations not AZ and why I had my second dose of AZ despite the clot risks as there was no alternative for me and the risk of only being single dosed was potentially greater.

To add I’m not knocking AZ but there are safer options for someone in their 30s and it’s far less effective against omicron.

@BigotSpigot

I think you will struggle to find one. I also wanted AZ over Pfizer, and deliberately went to a centre offering it and not the others (this was earlier in the year). However, I unfortunately reacted very badly to both doses and have new diagnoses now. I may have been better off with a different vaccine.

Do you mind if I ask what your side effects were and what your new diagnosis is? Hope you are ok

You can't demand anything op. They simply might not have it. That being the case you'd need to weigh up risks with vaccine vs risks without

@Indigofig

As it is still undergoing clinical trials I would prefer a more established and non mRNA vaccine. I have had covid (delta) already but I'm concerned about falling pregnant and harming my baby. This would be a first vaccine and due to catching covid twice, 3 bereavements and recovering from an operation recently I haven't been able to get a vaccine. So before some of you get on your judgemental high horse and start throwing wild accusations of 5G conspiracy theories, stop being a troll.

All vaccines continue undergoing Phase 4 clinical trials, usually for the lifetime of the vaccine. They are known as "postmarketing studies", and are required for ongoing regulatory approval. This does not mean they are unsafe to use. The regulators decide on approval at the end of Phase 3 trials, so the approved mRNA vaccines are all safe and have been delivered to billions of people worldwide.

@Indigofig

I don't want the other two vaccines, so do not come on this post berate me or try and convince me otherwise.

Well you won't be having one then You can't demand for something they do not have. AZ is widely no longer used, apart from for second doses due to the issues that arose. If you don't want to be vaccinated, that's your choice. You sound entitled and rude to boot, so good luck to whoever has to deal with your "demands".

The AZ vaccine is just as much a novel technology as mRNA. It uses a viral vector (a chimp adenovirus) which is really not traditional at all.
Completely this, just because AZ isn't an mRNA vaccine that doesn't mean it uses traditional technology. According to wikipedia (which I appreciate may not be totally correct, but I imagine it isn't wildly incorrect) only 6 viral vector vaccines have been produced, 4 for covid, and 2 for ebola.

Unfortunately OP you do seem to have come down on the side of conspiracy theorists. But, you make your choice. No vaccine or one you don't really want. Or COVID.

@dingledanglewoowoo

Unfortunately OP you do seem to have come down on the side of conspiracy theorists. But, you make your choice. No vaccine or one you don't really want. Or COVID.

How am I a conspiracy theorist? What a moronic comment! I've not been able to have a vaccine, I still need to wait 25days from when I last had covid until I can have a vaccine anyway and I'm weighing up whether I can have AZ or not. Have I said I think I'm going to be implanted with a 5g chip? Have I said that I am an anti vaxxer? No!

You will not find anywhere really giving AZ after all this time, especially not as first dose for someone under 40 - you just won't be able to.

You'll be offered Pfizer or Moderna. It's entirely safe. Getting Covid is much less safe.

Scientists have been working with MRNA technology for over three decades. How long is long enough?

Demand? Are you a Princess?
Take what you get or go private.
Or don't have one 😂

@BigotSpigot Can I ask you about your side effects, I too have had long term V side effects after AZ

Wow the compassion some of you show to a person who has lost 3 family members in the space of a few months, has had covid twice, is disabled and has been juggling a difficult job as a teacher and has had to go PT is astounding. Of course I'm a princess because I used the word 'demand' instead of 'insist'👸☺️ it really is such a princess life I lead in my ivory tower reading covid conspiracy theories...

Why would you want a vaccine that is more likely to kill you?

mRNA vaccines have been used for over 25 years.
What duration of use fulfils your criteria?
What specifically are you worried about?

I didn't say you were anti vax or mention 5G. But your suspicion of that mRNA vaccine has been fed by something, hadn't it?

@Indigofig

Wow the compassion some of you show to a person who has lost 3 family members in the space of a few months, has had covid twice, is disabled and has been juggling a difficult job as a teacher and has had to go PT is astounding. Of course I'm a princess because I used the word 'demand' instead of 'insist'👸☺️ it really is such a princess life I lead in my ivory tower reading covid conspiracy theories...

I'm sorry you've got some replies like this, but equally you've got quite a few pointing out your options (wait for Novovax or don't get vaccinated) whilst explaining that it's clear the mRNA vaccines are the most suitable for your age group AND those that have the most evidence for safety in pregnancy.

Agree with PP that something must be feeding your suspicion of mRNA vaccines? And at the same time you're not suspicious of those using cDNA (AZ)?

It's just crazy to instead of taking reassurance from all the experts who explain why these vaccines are safe, to go for the minority who spread misinfromation about them being dangerous.