Very unlikely Isolation period will be cut down to 5 days for Omicron

[BambinaJAS]

New Data from US & Taiwan point to peak infectiousness being reached around 3-6 days post infection (Omicron). See attached graph.

Not sure what UK Govt sources are going on about, as there seems to now be a concerted effort to get people out after Day 5.

What is going on in the England. Its like the lunatics have taken over and all reason and logic is being abandoned.

@BluebellsGreenbells

Good. Next we need to stop testing healthy, asymptomatic people. Especially children

You think people are actually testing g their children? Why do you think it’s so infectious in schools? That’s right - they aren’t being tested!

I know because I’ve asked a year 6 class today and only half have tested in their return to school. Says it all really.

Parents don’t want to isolate with their children. So they don’t test.

You aren't asked to test Yr6. Just Secondary school kids...

I’m no Boris fan but I’m pleased he’s held his nerve (or his cabinet persuaded him too). Lockdown with omicron not going so well in other countries..

Notice the narrative in the papers has changed now and there’s no more talk of lockdown or restrictions and more or living with Covid.

So relieved

Netherlands still going up and chose lockdown route

Very glad we didn’t follow SAGE ‘circuit breaker’

Oh, who cares!!

It's a cold for most people, other people have no symptoms at all. Case numbers are already reducing.

Good on the government for not trying to extend this madness to satisfy the perpetually terrified. Covid isnt going anywhere, and believe it or not, other viruses are available too who also cause a variety of long term issues (I speak from personal experience).

Yep all those worst cases scenarios being debunked now. As we knew they would be.

@Lazypuppy

What is going on in the England. Its like the lunatics have taken over and all reason and logic is being abandoned.

Completely disagree, finally Boris Johnson is manning up and holding his nerve.omicron is not dangerous to the majority of the population. Latest evidence is t cell immunity, like for colds, is very good. This nerds to be treated like flu, so jabs and boosters for vulnerable.

Stop the restrictions.

Scotland and wales have harsh restrixtions in place, and their numbers are increasing, but englands are reducing maybr there is logic to our 'madness'

The NHS in England is going to implode in several geographical areas over the next few weeks.

Adding more gasoline to the fire is an idea borne out of economic desperation and right wing extremist lunacy.

Two things that make the current English Govt not fit for purpose.

Parents don’t want to isolate with their children. So they don’t test.

I think the point is more that if their children are healthy and capable of being at school, they feel school is where they should be. Especially considering the amount of schooling they have already lost.

There is something very wrong IMO with fit, healthy children being forced to stay inside and miss school. It’s not simply that parents don’t want to isolate.

I’m not sure why you have given your post that title as if you are quoting a government source.

Personally I think it’s highly likely it will be cut to 5 days on the path to doing away with isolation altogether, which I predict will be the case by spring, at least if you’re asymptomatic.

@Delatron

Yep all those worst cases scenarios being debunked now. As we knew they would be.

All those messages Nabarro, SAGE even Whitty who is usually pretty good with measured language

The dismissive-ness re SA Dr

The talk of inevitable lockdown from some. Tg we didn’t. We’d said ‘it was working’ when the peak causes reduction not even strict lockdown does this. Let alone restrictions

Said - say

@WaystarRoycoCEO

I’m not sure why you have given your post that title as if you are quoting a government source.

Personally I think it’s highly likely it will be cut to 5 days on the path to doing away with isolation altogether, which I predict will be the case by spring, at least if you’re asymptomatic.

Cutting it down to 5 can be explored in the Spring.

Doing it right now (Jan 2022) is aggressive ignorance gone bonkers.

I've been testing my year 4 and year 6 this week as I have covid. Unless they have symptoms or someone in the house hold tests positive i dont test them

Yes I’m normally a Whitty fan but he’s had some criticism in the papers today for his ‘everything we know about Omicron is bad’ statement.

More agenda ‘fear’ there. Looks like the doctors and scientists in S.Africa were right.

Yes that was the line I was thinking of

It doesn't matter what the scientific evidence suggests is right, it matters what Steve Baker wants (and Brady, and Harper, and all the rest of them).

It's what the voters want. It's hopefully what the majority of UK residents want!

@Delatron

Yes I’m normally a Whitty fan but he’s had some criticism in the papers today for his ‘everything we know about Omicron is bad’ statement.

More agenda ‘fear’ there. Looks like the doctors and scientists in S.Africa were right.

This post is a textbook example of "aggressive ignorance".

@Blubells

It doesn't matter what the scientific evidence suggests is right, it matters what Steve Baker wants (and Brady, and Harper, and all the rest of them).

It's what the voters want. It's hopefully what the majority of UK residents want!

Fairly certain UK residents want to be able to access non-covid medical care in the next 4 weeks.

What @BambinaJAS by discussing what is in the papers today? We can’t have free speech now because you don’t like the way the strategy is changing? Hmm. And you get personal. That’s textbook....

I’ve said I’m a Whitty fan but I didn’t agree with that statement. Not ignorant or aggressive. As the data has shown....

The NHS in England is going to implode in several geographical areas over the next few weeks.

But not because of omicron patients.

The NHS is struggling because it's underfunded and because staff have to isolate for 10 days when testing positive m.

Where is that graph from op?

This post is a textbook example of "aggressive ignorance".

Odd thing to say.

Fairly certain UK residents want to be able to access non-covid medical care in the next 4 weeks.

Yes but as I said, then we need to stop isolating every employee who tests positive for 10 days and we need to fund the NHS properly.

I think the majority of voters would prefer isolation restrictions to end.

Maybe @BambinaJAS could explain how my post was textbook ‘aggressive ignorance’

It’s easy to say these things. Hard to explain when you’re pulled up on it though...

I can excuse whitty as I think they were genuinely worried about Xmas gatherings. It’s the one occasion in the year where such multi generational mixing takes place throughout the country and all on one day. I think if omincron had hit us at a time when Xmas day wasn’t on the horizon they would have trusted the SA data more.
Anyway that’s my excuse for whitty being too gloomy on this occasion as I agree he is usually measured (and I’m sticking to it)

And a 5 day isolation will help stop the NHS imploding , that’s one of the main reasons for doing it!
My trust ( central London) does not have particularly high sickness at moment anyway. We were told 6% the other day so no where near the 25% predicted