Scottish rules help please

[Greys007]

Can anyone clarify this please...

Person has had contact from T&T advising they have been in contact with a positive case so should therefore get a PCR test. The notification from T&T then goes on to say that even if PCR is negative, and regardless of vaccination status, this person should isolate until X date.

Am I just really behind on the rules?! My understanding was that if full vaccinated and with a negative PCR do not need to isolate unless the positive case lives in your house? 🤔

Unfortunately not in Scotland. PCR and ten days isolation. Not sure why anyone would bother to test in that situation. I certainly wouldn't

Needs to be a household contact, doesn't it? But I looked it up and the definition of a household contact isn't just people who live together - so maybe one of these applies:

^live with someone who has tested positive – for example you sleep in the same home or live in shared accommodation like university halls
have spent 8 hours or more in the home of the person who has tested positive during their infectious period – for example a sleepover
are a sexual contact who does not usually live with the person who has tested positive
are a cleaner (not using PPE) who cleans the home of a person who has tested positive, even if you did not spent time with them^

Non-household close contacts (using definition below) just need to isolate till they get a negative pcr (if vaccinated).
I haven't dealt with t&t but if they are anything like the person I spoke to about my booster, I knew more than they did and had actually read the guidance!

It changed around 12th to all close contacts of omicron positive car had to do the 10 days even if negative and fully vaxed.

I’ve had a look and don’t see the official page updated to reflect Omicron difference. The First Minister’s speech minutes from the 7th December do mention it though

Sorry but the Chief Mammy changed the rules a few weeks ago. You are grounded. Doesn't matter if you are fully vaccinated, boosted and negative.

Could anyone link to actual guidance please?

I don't think the "omicron difference" applies. I think it was mooted.
I can't see a gov source but this from the Herald within the last week:
www.heraldscotland.com/news/19801432.covid-scotland-self-isolation-rules/

www.nhsinform.scot/self-help-guides/self-help-guide-when-and-how-long-to-self-isolate-due-to-coronavirus

According to nhs inform if you're fully vaxed and negative pcr then you're good to go.
The other "rules" are only advice

www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59668602

In other news, DH is NHS and they can no longer catch covid, officially. They are impervious to it and can go back to work unless actually unwell.

This seems to apply to all NHS, even those working with CEV patients.

I’m a close contact of a positive case (non household). I received my text today and it said to isolate until 4 January it I could end isolation if my pcr was negative, I have no symptoms and I am double jagged. Hoping my test comes back negative 🤞

Scotland’s rules have over-reached this time. It’s all a bit much.

U still need to isolate the rules have changed in Scotland 🙄

My dad was called by t& t and told to get a test if negative was all fine. This was early december. They then called bk a few days later and said actually the contact has omicron and my dad and his whole household has to isolate for 10days regardless of a negative result! He had been triple vaxxed at that point and my mum too 🤷🏻‍♀️

@pradavilla it's advice in Scotland
not rules.
See my nhs inform link and bbc link above

Look it isn't the case that there is a current distinction in Scotland between omicron isolation and other forms. If anyone has any evidence that there is please post it!

@ecceromani Really 😮 I assumed it was the law. It was certainly not put to my dad as advice more you have to do this. He said my wife is actually at work just now and they said u need to call her and tell her to come home and isolate asap.

Thanks all. Thats where I was struggling - I knew I’d heard about the Omicron difference but couldn’t find any official guidance relating to it currently!

@pradavilla there was about a week in December where Scotland was trying to contain omicron but obviously that spectacularly failed!
I don't think people are even told now what variant as assumed to be omicron.

[quote pradavilla]@ecceromani Really 😮 I assumed it was the law. It was certainly not put to my dad as advice more you have to do this. He said my wife is actually at work just now and they said u need to call her and tell her to come home and isolate asap. [/quote]
Yes they are very good at failing to tell you that it's not actually in law!

Nicola Sturgeon also makes it seem like it is when it's advice (different if actually positive)

I think it's advice
It's a ridiculous rule either way

Can someone tell me if a whole household in Scotland, (6 people) have tested positive with two being infected around a week after the first person had a positive result.
When does the original person stop isolating?
10 days after their original positive result or when the later infected people feel better and test negative?
This is a friends scenario, they could potentially be in isolation for weeks!

For the OP - just household contacts (or "high risk") have to do 10 days isolation. Otherwise it's recommended PCR.

@gracielooloo
I see this question asked so much and I'm not sure where the confusion arises as if you look on NHS inform the advice is really clear.
Original case stops isolating after 10 days.
Everyone non-infected stops isolating after 10 days.
Secondary cases isolate for 10 days from onset of symptoms or positive test... Noone needs to extend isolation and it doesn't reset for the whole household.

Thanks @DistantSkye, I’ll make sure I read NHS Inform for anymore info I need.😀