Does DD need to self isolate?

[Bauble1234]

DD (18) found out someone she was in close contact with yesterday has just received positive PCR test. She found out whilst travelling back from London by train. We picked her up from train station and took her straight for a PCR test. However results will take 72 hours to come . She is now in her bedroom isolated. She has had her second Covid vaccination 4 weeks ago.
Thing is, we have my 76 year old parents staying for Christmas (live 4 hours away). Both of my parents have had both Covid vaccinations and boosters.
I don't really know how to handle this. Government guidance seems to be that you only need to isolate if you test positive for Covid. We have given DD a Lateral Flow test which was negative. However as her exposure to Covid positive person was only 24 hours ago, it may be too early for LFT or PCR to pick up Covid even if DD is infected.

I assume DD probably needs to stay in her room to protect my elderly parents? I have told my parents they could go home and we won't be offended.

You should look up what the guidelines are for contacts. It’s changed now.

She can lft every day. I wouldn’t make someone isolate in their bedroom as a contact.

Legally she does not need to isolate, but it's up to you if you have elderly parents in the house.

What was the nature of her contact with the positive person?

Government guidance is written in mind to
Balance the health and economy so I would take it a step further if I were in your shoes. I personally would do my best to keep the grandparents safe just in case she’s positive so I would isolate my daughter for the sake of few hours of Christmas dinner knowing that I’ve done my best not to infect the grandparents. Sad situation . X

I wouldn't make her isolate but you clearly sound worried. Are your parents actually vulnerable? Or is it just because of their age? On age alone I wouldn't be too worried at all.

@PurpleDaisies

What was the nature of her contact with the positive person?

She was at a party yesterday with the person who has received a positive PCR result today.

@humdingle

I wouldn't make her isolate but you clearly sound worried. Are your parents actually vulnerable? Or is it just because of their age? On age alone I wouldn't be too worried at all.

Dad has a heart condition (Atrial Fibrillation).

She will not get covid within hours of a close contact do that pcr was pointless!!

My family and I spent 4 hours over dinner with my brother 2 weeks ago.
The next day he developed signs of COVID and found out someone he was in close contact with 3 days prior had a positive PCR. He then got a positive PCR.
We were all very worried we'd get infected (2 people fully vaccinated, 2 people not vaccinated).
None of us became unwell and we all had negative lateral flows every day for the next week.
As per new advice, the vaccinated people did not self isolate.

Frankly in many parts of the country its pretty safe to assume we've all been close contacts with someone at some point in the past few days unless we're WFH and generally staying very much indoors. Anyone who works as say a teacher or in a supermarket will almost certainly have been in contact with someone (possibly asymptomatic) whether they are aware of it or not. There are parts of London where 1 in 20 people are positive at present. I think you're being OTT to be honest. Did your daughter spend a lot of time taking face to face with this person?

She was at a party yesterday with the person who has received a positive PCR result today.

Presumably the friend had a PCR as she either had symptoms or a positive lateral flow?And yet still went to a party while she was waiting for a PCR result? And knew many of the people at the party would be going home for Christmas with parents, grandparents and whoever else?

Utterly selfish and Irresponsible!

Both of my kids have (separately) had covid and no one else in the household caught it. This includes my youngest who projectile vomited everywhere, wanted to be cuddled constantly etc. I would be cautious and keep separate as much as possible but not avoid each other. N

@Remmy123

She will not get covid within hours of a close contact do that pcr was pointless!!

Yes. I realise that this is right now I have looked into it more.

@Choux

She was at a party yesterday with the person who has received a positive PCR result today.

Presumably the friend had a PCR as she either had symptoms or a positive lateral flow?And yet still went to a party while she was waiting for a PCR result? And knew many of the people at the party would be going home for Christmas with parents, grandparents and whoever else?

Utterly selfish and Irresponsible!

I think the friend had a succession of negative Lateral Flow tests but did PCR just to make sure.

I wouldn't make her isolate I would just get her to do an LFT everyday. DH and I are positive and the kids are testing every day but not isolating.

Legally (in England) she doesn’t have to if she’s vaxxed and negative lft but it would be sensible to keep away from anyone vulnerable, yes.

@FoxIvy

Frankly in many parts of the country its pretty safe to assume we've all been close contacts with someone at some point in the past few days unless we're WFH and generally staying very much indoors. Anyone who works as say a teacher or in a supermarket will almost certainly have been in contact with someone (possibly asymptomatic) whether they are aware of it or not. There are parts of London where 1 in 20 people are positive at present. I think you're being OTT to be honest. Did your daughter spend a lot of time taking face to face with this person?

I believe my DD did interact with the friend who tested positive extensively at the party unfortunately.

It's a minefield isn't it. It is SO prevalent at the moment though that if she has been out and about and at parties she probably has picked it up
Maybe have her isolate until the test result comes. The test was probably taken a bit early as other people have said but since you have done it......

What do your parents say about it? I wouldn’t make someone isolate, no. LFT if you want and get on with it.

Irresponsible of the friend as she would have already done the PCR before going to the party as they’re taking about 3 days to come often now.

I definitely wouldn’t make DD isolate but would have everyone doing daily LFTs and distancing etc. if she is positive then I’d approach it differently.

I've had this discussion in depth with a friend whose DD is in a similar position this week - although she doesn't live at home but was coming for Christmas day.
We concluded that it is not about what the rules say but more about how much of a risk it is for the elderly Grandparents who will also be present for dinner. In their cases they decided that the DD would not come for dinner and instead spend the day in her own house with her partner.