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Will there be a lockdown/more restrictions from 28th?

24 replies

Elvinelf · 21/12/2021 08:24

That’s what I keep reading everywhere, people seem to think it’s a done deal?

I haven’t heard any confirmation of this but the way people are talking is like it definitely IS happening.

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MoggyP · 21/12/2021 08:25

Anyone getting a crystal ball for Christmas?

ilovesooty · 21/12/2021 08:25

How are any of us supposed to know?

AnnieSmithson · 21/12/2021 08:25

In Wales we are having tighter restrictions from 27th

Sparklingbrook · 21/12/2021 08:26

There must be a bajillion threads on this now.

paranoidnamechanger · 21/12/2021 08:27

Yep. It's in today's Times and the leaks there have always been reliable in the past. It's going to be a circuit breaker so not a lockdown.

slashlover · 21/12/2021 08:27

How many more of these threads will there be? This and "should I go to this event?" are taking over the site.

Blupblup · 21/12/2021 08:28

Id say yes. If it wasn't for the Christmas parties scandal, they would have introduced restrictions already. If infections are over 100,000 today, as they are expected to be, there'll be a lot of pressure.

Sparklingbrook · 21/12/2021 08:28

Why do people think that posters on MN will know this stuff even?

Divocohw · 21/12/2021 08:29

@Sparklingbrook

Why do people think that posters on MN will know this stuff even?

Because all MNers know everything

Flapjacker48 · 21/12/2021 08:31

No as the Cabinet won't agree to it.

Sparklingbrook · 21/12/2021 08:33

Good point @Divocohw 😂 If you read it on MN then it must be true.

IcedPurple · 21/12/2021 08:37

I think it's more likely to be 'guidance' and possibly more restrictions on hospitality and large events.

I don't see a full-scale lockdown or 'circuit breaker' or whatever the latest silly expression is. But what do I or any of us here know?

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 21/12/2021 08:42

My guess is that they want to try to preserve a bit of spending in the last few days before Christmas (to minimise potential damage to the economy - something Tories instinctively care mire about that people) and then take the hit in January which is traditionally a very quiet season for spending.

(Bad for gyms etc though, as they like people making New Years resolutions and paying for longer memberships than they'll ever use)

January must be one of the 'least worst' times, if it has to be done. And the data about hospital admission rates is just beginning to percolate through, so there must surely be enough for decision making in the next week or two

MoggyP · 21/12/2021 08:43

@Sparklingbrook

Why do people think that posters on MN will know this stuff even?

Because of their friends in the Met, MI5, military etc ???

5831bob123 · 21/12/2021 08:53

I wish people would stop asking! Nobody knows! BoJo probably doesn't know. Until there's an announcement enjoy yourself!

ElectraBlue · 21/12/2021 08:53

Unless Johnson wants a new job...no.

There would be a lot of push back, non-compliance anyway. There are a few bits in the press about how the fact that most of the people in hospital with Covid were actually admitted because of something else entirely and challenging the worst case scenario produced by Sage.

Unless we still clear evidence/data rather than Doomsday prediction, there is little need for lockdowns. They don't work and there is no discussion as to what the longer term plan is. Previous lockdowns were to allow time for vaccinations but the booster campaign is well under way so again what is the rational for a lockdown?

paranoidnamechanger · 21/12/2021 08:58

It won't be a lockdown, he knows the country can't afford it.

But he has to be seen to be doing something, hence why we're probably going to have the circuit breaker.

Eredoor · 21/12/2021 09:00

I'm guessing that BJ will have an announcement later this week urging caution for Christmas, maybe advice for smaller Christmas gatherings, get your booster, then some mandated restrictions but not a lockdown coming in before NewYear and Parliament recalled. Anyone can only guess

MarshaBradyo · 21/12/2021 09:04

It hasn’t been decided yet

Data will help inform in next couple of days

Moonmelodies · 21/12/2021 09:11

With the number of people dying (who happen to have tested positive within the previous 28 days) continuing to drop, why would they?

JudyJudyJudyDench · 21/12/2021 09:16

@Moonmelodies it's nothing to do with deaths
It's to do with limiting spread, keeping staff in hospitals so that ANY sick can be cared for.

Blupblup · 21/12/2021 09:26

Deaths lag 3-4 weeks behind infections. Even if Omicron is milder and has a lower mortality rate, if it infects many more people, the overall deaths will rise.

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 21/12/2021 09:52

@Moonmelodies

With the number of people dying (who happen to have tested positive within the previous 28 days) continuing to drop, why would they?

Because it's not deaths that matter - it's number in hospital

They said months ago that 'people will die' so it's only if the excess death rate rockets that it will become a reason to make changes.

I think the risks to NHS from numbers of admissions, and the risks to society at large (disruption if big peak means high absence rates from work and services becoming undeliverable) are going to be the key indicators.

Bitofachinwag · 21/12/2021 09:56

@Moonmelodies

With the number of people dying (who happen to have tested positive within the previous 28 days) continuing to drop, why would they?

Because if too many keyworkers are off sick it becomes an unsafe situation.

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