Are we just been nudged?

[Peakedtoosoon]

And government hope to avoid strict measures because "enough" people have already effectively locked themselves down?

I'll admit I've been reckless this week. I'm thrice jabbed and have had a hell of a year, including DH being in hospital for 3 months with no visitors, then caring for him at home until he died. I have been "keeping busy" as my only way to carry on. I honestly don't know how I'll manage another lockdown.

This is what I have seen. West End on Wednesday, almost earily quiet, lots of empty seats in a sold out theatre

Pub with a band, usually packed on an ordinary Friday night, practically empty the Friday before Christmas Eve.

Restaurant which needs booking weeks in advance, with empty tables at the weekend.

My church has just announced its Christmas servcies will only be on line

My running club has announced it will close early for Christmas

Friends are cancelling arrangements for next week all over the place.

Maybe if "we" do it for them, they won't have to and that's why the messaging has changed over the last few days?

Oh and a small group of ex colleagues were literally the only people in the pub on Monday eve.

Yep, we have been seriously nudged.
Thousands of potential super spreader events have been averted.
It might well get us through Christmas day without going to lockdowns.

It’s almost as if it’s an evolving situation

Yes.

I hate to give our leaders credit for anything, but was the smart thing to do.

They need to step in to help entertainment and arts industries though - abandoning them to a lock down by stealth is not on.

@Luredbyapomegranate

Yes.

I hate to give our leaders credit for anything, but was the smart thing to do.

They need to step in to help entertainment and arts industries though - abandoning them to a lock down by stealth is not on.

Yes, I wasn't criticising. Genius really

Really sorry about your DH, @Peakedtoosoon.

I honestly don't know how this will pan out (or why it's being handled so weirdly), but I certainly wish you all the best for Christmas (and getting through it)

I work in an area of public health dealing with covid cases and if we have been nudged then that's good. The figures are alarming. People don't want covid for Christmas. They are 'making their own risk assessments'. No one can be criticised for that (I'm not saying that you are doing the criticism)
I'm a bit of a Tiktok addict there is plenty of content from youngsters who now have to isolate alone for Christmas because they have contracted covid. One poor couple who have to isolate in a budget hotel room in Amsterdam. Its just not worth it.

@Northernsoullover

I work in an area of public health dealing with covid cases and if we have been nudged then that's good. The figures are alarming. People don't want covid for Christmas. They are 'making their own risk assessments'. No one can be criticised for that (I'm not saying that you are doing the criticism) I'm a bit of a Tiktok addict there is plenty of content from youngsters who now have to isolate alone for Christmas because they have contracted covid. One poor couple who have to isolate in a budget hotel room in Amsterdam. Its just not worth it.

Exactly, I took the decision to prioritise getting out and about while I could, over what will likely be a very sad Chrisrmas anyway. That others have done differently is fine by me.

High numbers and / or deaths are always used for behaviour change

We’ve used it throughout as it’s more effective than enforcement - which we don’t really do

I have tested everyday before a night out too.

Last year a lot the public were angry about being told to lockdown and were saying they wanted to be treated like adults and take responsibility for themselves and this feels like they are doing just that, they're giving us the facts and light measures and trusting us to do the right thing.

@Gertie75

Last year a lot the public were angry about being told to lockdown and were saying they wanted to be treated like adults and take responsibility for themselves and this feels like they are doing just that, they're giving us the facts and light measures and trusting us to do the right thing.

I agree and prefer the choice but a lot of people calling out for more (on here anyway)

I agree and prefer the choice but a lot of people calling out for more (on here anyway)

That's because people don't want other people to make the wrong choices

Yep, it's incredible that many have taken their own risk assessments and decided not to do things. The government do hire ' behavior therapists ' and they have probably been behind a lot of this , even Chris Whitty saying what he did last Wednesday about limiting meet ups had an affect on people as well.

It's all ridiculous nudging, meanwhile the World Economic Forum is going ahead in mid January and no one is batting a fecking eyelid to that, half these lot in charge will be poncing around in Switzerland, as long as they're alright though.

Of course we are. But it’s very unfair on certain industries to not offer financial support when people are essentially locking themselves down, especially pubs, restaurants, hotels and theatres.

They are setting up the people who went out and spent money that helped hospitality businesses.
If there's a lockdown or the NHS becomes overwhelmed again , it will be blamed on the "selfish" who went to work, didn't get boosted (boostered?) or saw their families over the festive period.

@Peakedtoosoon

I agree and prefer the choice but a lot of people calling out for more (on here anyway)

That's because people don't want other people to make the wrong choices

Ha true

It helps that I care not about most things when it comes to other people doing stuff ;

England is a mysterious country for a foreigner. So many cases, so many death, but some people seems not care at all.

Yes people are locking down. I hope the government do step in. Me and DH recently left our jobs to run our thriving leisure business which has now come to a grinding holt!

Yep. It's a way of achieving a similar outcome for free and without the prime minister having to face his backbenchers. I think you're absolutely right OP.

@rainrainraincamedowndowndown

England is a mysterious country for a foreigner. So many cases, so many death, but some people seems not care at all.

Do you live in England? Then you should know that the way things are handled affects different groups in different ways. It's easy to be pro lockdown if your job can be done from home and you and your loved ones aren't waiting for hospital treatment that keeps on being delayed. It's understandable why there are mass demonstrations in continental Europe. (I'm guessing that's not where you're from) People's businesses have crashed overnight, basic freedoms taken away, people dying and suffering alone when lockdowns simply delay when people get infected. People who work outside their homes often for low wages (delivery, cleaning, retail, utilities workers...) have been treated like the people burning cars and having raves when we should be thanking them for going out and keeping society ticking. I stick to the rules because my circumstances make it easy to. Think before making stupid blanket statements

One thing it’s handy for is regional differences in timing

In March 2020 Londoners changed behaviour and maybe are now too, not sure

This means a national lockdown doesn’t favour one area too much. I noticed Burnham is not keen as Manchester not getting high cases as much

Nudged? More like rammed.

This nudge mentality supports those that need it least. It supports those that can work from home, those that can cancel theatre and restaurant bookings, those that can cocoon themselves in their financially stable bubble.
It shafts all those that have had to keep working outside the home, those on zero hours, those in the service industry who a cancelled meal doesn't mean they have to cook for themselves, it means they can't afford to buy food to cook.
And yet you applaud it.