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Stopping Omicron in its tracks

39 replies

AbstractDot · 17/12/2021 23:13

So we know it hit the UK 3 weeks ago (roughly). We now have people getting Boosters in droves. Could parts of the UK that haven't yet had Omicron really take hold - but have had the extra heads up time to get Boosters urgently - potentially stop it in its tracks? I do hope so.

And if this is the case, as Delta cases fall, we could have a major period of respite on the cards?!

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rightsideoftheroad · 17/12/2021 23:15

Until the next variant.

XenoBitch · 17/12/2021 23:17

Boosters are not stopping people getting Omicron though.

DaisyWaldron · 17/12/2021 23:18

It takes 2 weeks for the boosters to become fully effective, and Omicron spreads incredibly quickly.

AbstractDot · 17/12/2021 23:19

That's what I mean by 'respite'! Breathing space to prepare for the next variant and time for vaccinations and treatments to be developed further.

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ALittleOldLadyTookInHerGoat · 17/12/2021 23:19

It's never going to happen. Omicron is a train hurtling down the tracks and nothing will stop it.

Bubblty · 17/12/2021 23:19

No its just hopefully going to stop it killing people all in one go

rrhuth · 17/12/2021 23:19

No. Boosters don't stop spread, just reduce risk of severe symptoms.

rrhuth · 17/12/2021 23:21

@Bubblty

No its just hopefully going to stop it killing people all in one go
Thanks for cheering me up Grin
Undisclosedlocation · 17/12/2021 23:22

@ALittleOldLadyTookInHerGoat

It's never going to happen. Omicron is a train hurtling down the tracks and nothing will stop it.
That’s the spirit. Nothing quite like a glass half empty is there?
OhPeeQueue · 17/12/2021 23:22

The jabs messed up my cycle.. I won’t be taking the booster yet because I’m not mixing with people anywhere. So if more people just reduced their mingling and going out on their own accord, instead of waiting for the blonde dickhead to tell them, we’d be fine, and we’d all have boosters at our pace and liking.

Flapjacker48 · 17/12/2021 23:24

No

MissAmbrosia · 17/12/2021 23:25

It's an airborne virus. Wearing masks and not mingling unnecessarily so it cant spread easily is the easiest and cheapest way of stopping it. And yet everyone seems to have an issue with those things.

AbstractDot · 17/12/2021 23:25

@XenoBitch

"Boosters are not stopping people getting Omicron though."

At the moment! We know the antibodies need a week or so to mature (bad analogy) but are apoarently quicker due to previous cell memory. Boosters are being delivered at a rate we haven't seen before, some areas will surely see a benefit of that?

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rrhuth · 17/12/2021 23:26

@OhPeeQueue

The jabs messed up my cycle.. I won’t be taking the booster yet because I’m not mixing with people anywhere. So if more people just reduced their mingling and going out on their own accord, instead of waiting for the blonde dickhead to tell them, we’d be fine, and we’d all have boosters at our pace and liking.
Omicron is doubling every two days, there is no spare time really.
rrhuth · 17/12/2021 23:27

[quote AbstractDot]@XenoBitch

"Boosters are not stopping people getting Omicron though."

At the moment! We know the antibodies need a week or so to mature (bad analogy) but are apoarently quicker due to previous cell memory. Boosters are being delivered at a rate we haven't seen before, some areas will surely see a benefit of that?[/quote]
The data from Israel said no didn't it?

Vaccines only is a failed strategy anyway. Boosters alone are not enough.

AbstractDot · 17/12/2021 23:28

@rrhuth

"No. Boosters don't stop spread, just reduce risk of severe symptoms."

And if lots of the UK can get ahead of Omicron by having a collectively high amount of antibodies most importantly at the same time , Omicron could be a blessing in disguise that gives everyone a natural immunity ahead of any nastier variants?

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rrhuth · 17/12/2021 23:33

[quote AbstractDot]@rrhuth

"No. Boosters don't stop spread, just reduce risk of severe symptoms."

And if lots of the UK can get ahead of Omicron by having a collectively high amount of antibodies most importantly at the same time , Omicron could be a blessing in disguise that gives everyone a natural immunity ahead of any nastier variants?[/quote]
This drug is called hopium. The hopium addicts said if kids got Delta they'd have immunity...oops, got that wrong!

Who knows what's next?

Hazelnutbean · 17/12/2021 23:35

@rrhuth

No. Boosters don't stop spread, just reduce risk of severe symptoms.
No, boosters give 70-75% protection against symptomatic infection. That's pretty good, though not nearly as good as with Delta admittedly.

www.cnbc.com/2021/12/10/boosters-give-70percent-75percent-protection-against-mild-disease-from-omicron-uk-health-security-agency-says.html

AbstractDot · 17/12/2021 23:36

Natural immunity building over time is the very nature of viruses. Flu strains change regularly.

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3luckystars · 17/12/2021 23:38

Sorry for my stupidity here but is the original Covid gone now? Was it completely overtaken by Delta?
If yes then this variant will overtake Delta in a matter of days and we will be left with only this.

Is that correct?

AbstractDot · 17/12/2021 23:39

@Hazelnutbean

However, 75% of a less harmful variant could be better than (e.g.) 92% of a more dangerous variant though we obviously can't correlate this yet.

Quite happy here being high on Hopium!!! Grin

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AbstractDot · 17/12/2021 23:41

@3luckystars it's strange isn't it to think they just dissappear but apparently so. Though it doesn't make sense that they wouldn't run concurrently to me!

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rrhuth · 17/12/2021 23:42

@3luckystars

Sorry for my stupidity here but is the original Covid gone now? Was it completely overtaken by Delta? If yes then this variant will overtake Delta in a matter of days and we will be left with only this.

Is that correct?

There is so much Delta (thanks, shit government) it is expected to lurk but will become a smaller percentage of the whole I think?
rrhuth · 17/12/2021 23:43

[quote AbstractDot]@Hazelnutbean

However, 75% of a less harmful variant could be better than (e.g.) 92% of a more dangerous variant though we obviously can't correlate this yet.

Quite happy here being high on Hopium!!! Grin[/quote]
You are def high on hopium.

Your numbers are nonsense. Omicron would have to be massively less severe for the higher cases not to cause problems.

Roseandgeranium · 17/12/2021 23:44

@3luckystars

Sorry for my stupidity here but is the original Covid gone now? Was it completely overtaken by Delta? If yes then this variant will overtake Delta in a matter of days and we will be left with only this.

Is that correct?

What they now call ‘wild type’ Covid is pretty much extinct now, yes. I think in this country it was done in by alpha (Kent), which then lost out to delta. What’s unclear is whether omicron will beat out delta entirely. Apparently it’s possible that the immunological profiles may be so different that we will instead have two concurrently circulating variants. My understanding is that it’s more likely that delta will be crushed by a combination of vaccination and omicron.
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