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Time to think about closing the schools

545 replies

DolphinFC · 16/12/2021 16:44

ONS survey finds that education staff are 37% more likely to catch Covid than other workers.

Previous data showed they were no more likely to catch covid than other workers and many people (especially MNetters) felt that this was all the proof needed to keep schools open.

Well, new data shows the reverse is now the case.

Time to think about closing the schools
OP posts:
Veeveeoxox · 16/12/2021 19:04

Would the teachers still want to close schools if their salaries were reduced ?

Piggyinblankets · 16/12/2021 19:04

Tosh. So they're more likely to catch Covid than healthcare workers then? Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Yes. See data.

Piggyinblankets · 16/12/2021 19:05

@Veeveeoxox

Would the teachers still want to close schools if their salaries were reduced ?
Why would they be?
FourTeaFallOut · 16/12/2021 19:06

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55864573

OhPeeQueue · 16/12/2021 19:06

NO. NO. NO.

SCHOOLS MUST STAY OPEN.

LucyLastik · 16/12/2021 19:08

@Veeveeoxox

Would the teachers still want to close schools if their salaries were reduced ?
Why would they?
starrynight19 · 16/12/2021 19:08

@Veeveeoxox

Would the teachers still want to close schools if their salaries were reduced ?
Where has a teacher asked for a school to be closed please enlighten me ?
Monkeytennis97 · 16/12/2021 19:09

@Veeveeoxox

Would the teachers still want to close schools if their salaries were reduced ?
I'm ok with that tbh.
Monkeytennis97 · 16/12/2021 19:10

I don't want them to close btw but if they have too then I'm fine to go on a furlough type arrangement.

Monkeytennis97 · 16/12/2021 19:10

To

siestalady · 16/12/2021 19:11

Because they wouldn't be working Hmm

Schools can't shut wholesale again, they just can't. Everyone accepts there will be disruption and ad hoc closures because frankly, omicron is coming for all of us. But blanket closures- nope.

codexa · 16/12/2021 19:12

@FourTeaFallOut

Kids are very resilient. All this talk about their mental health is just becoming tiring now since sending them in to "socialise" has a high price for the teaching profession and the spread of disease.

The number of camh referrals doubled after lockdown.

Did teachers need or get adult mental health referrals too I wonder?

It is surely a two way street.

LucyLastik · 16/12/2021 19:12

@siestalady

Because they wouldn't be working Hmm

Schools can't shut wholesale again, they just can't. Everyone accepts there will be disruption and ad hoc closures because frankly, omicron is coming for all of us. But blanket closures- nope.

False
starrynight19 · 16/12/2021 19:14

@siestalady

Because they wouldn't be working Hmm

Schools can't shut wholesale again, they just can't. Everyone accepts there will be disruption and ad hoc closures because frankly, omicron is coming for all of us. But blanket closures- nope.

How do you think online learning works ?
MabelsApron · 16/12/2021 19:15

OP, it honestly wouldn’t matter if teachers were 37% likely to actually die of COVID, the responses would be exactly the same. Schools cannot close under any circumstances.

It doesn’t matter to anyone, least of all people on a parenting website.

RosieLemonade · 16/12/2021 19:16

Will schools have to close every Jan- March for ever? Doesn't bother me. DD will be in as we are both Keyworkers. However I teach a year 5 class who haven't done a full year since Year 2. The gaps are enormous. My school supplied every child with a laptop. In Jan-March last year I had roughly 5 children on each zoom lesson. Only 10 children did more than 50% of the work I set.

PoorMegHopkins · 16/12/2021 19:17

@Veeveeoxox have you read the thread? All us teachers saying we DON’T want schools to close.
Same as before. We all keep saying this yet people always think we are the ones calling for closure.
I want to teach my class in my classroom. It’s not just about learning. It’s about social skills and all sorts of other things. Money needs investing to make schools safer and therefore less likely to close.

ParadiseLaundry · 16/12/2021 19:18

@codexa

The issue of schools closing wouldn't have anything to do with kids on people's hands rather than the gap in education would it?

Teachers and associated professions are not respected as they are in other countries, and I am astonished at how crap their pay is. To me they are doing the country a great service and should be commended every day of the week.

Many of those up in arms are balking at the idea of having kids under their feet rather than at school.

I know, I know, plenty of jobs are risky Covid wise, and people have to work etc. but still.....

Absolutely not. Most people need to work and don't want to leave their children in front of a screen being ignored all day while they try to get their work done to keep a roof over their heads.
ToodlePipPop · 16/12/2021 19:18

Where does this end though? Most of the population has now been double, if not triple, jabbed. Are we just to keep teachers home forever more now in case they catch an illness for which they've already been vaccinated?

I'm sure there are a few things people working alongside lots of others, especially children, are more likely to catch.

I worked in a nursery for a few years when I was younger, the amount of colds I got was crazy but it was part and parcel.

It's not going anywhere, we've been vaccinated. What do you propose? Unless you are clinically vulnerable, this ridiculousness has to stop some time. We can't all just stay home forever to avoid an illness we've been vaccinated for!

theemperorhasnoclothes · 16/12/2021 19:19

Honestly I think even if they said schools were closing all the kids would be in. I'm technically a keyworker as is DH and we'd send in this time, we didn't last time out of civic duty but given the government has done fuck all to protect kids or their teachers since Sept it seems really unfair to expect them to return to the hell of online learning to protect everyone else when covid's already been through schools several times over.

Maybe if everyone sends them in they'll have to actually put in place some mitigations and give parents the option of vaccination for all ages over 5. That's what's needed (lots of other countries have done it, it's not rocket science).

Piggyinblankets · 16/12/2021 19:19

@FourTeaFallOut

Kids are very resilient. All this talk about their mental health is just becoming tiring now since sending them in to "socialise" has a high price for the teaching profession and the spread of disease.

The number of camh referrals doubled after lockdown.

Not all of this is to do with school closures . Much of this is to do with CAMHS working remotely (and slowly) during lockdown and afterwards, so it was also a build up and backlog. They are only just now getting round to some pre lockdown referrals.
JanglyBeads · 16/12/2021 19:20

You nail it, @MabelsApron

manysummersago · 16/12/2021 19:20

I think that’s a bit disingenuous tbh @Piggyinblankets

There’s a world of difference between a mental health condition qualifying for CAHMs and a generally unhappy and unsettled child, anyway.