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Silly question about reinfection…

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MrPoppysParka · 12/12/2021 09:30

DD had covid last week and can return to school on Monday.

However, I’m worried. Could she get reinfected a week later?! Could she catch Omicron as easily as those who haven’t had COVID recently?

Give my head a wobble for me please!

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JanglyBeads · 12/12/2021 09:36

The risk is still small, just not as minuscule as when we only had delta to worry about. Of course it only exists at all if omicron comes into her school which it might not do before term ends!

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MrPoppysParka · 12/12/2021 10:47

Thank you @JanglyBeads. I wouldn’t worry so much if it wasn’t Christmas in less than a fortnight!

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morticiamarkle · 12/12/2021 11:21

Very unlikely while she still has lots of antibodies circulating
More likely in about a year or so, but still v small chance according to this v large Israeli study (which likely overstates reinfections in naive patients as there wasn't as much pcr done early in the pandemic):

Silly question about reinfection…
Whatdoyawannado · 12/12/2021 11:26

@morticiamarkle That was before Omicron.....

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MrPoppysParka · 12/12/2021 12:03

That’s what I’m worried about @Whatdoyawannado. Could she conceivably pick up Omicron next week? 🤯

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IfIknewyouwerecomingidhavebake · 12/12/2021 12:11

Similar situation also wondering the same.
If as they say, being double vaccinated offers no protection for Omicron, does that mean that standard covid antibodies (even recent) don’t offer protection against Omicron variant?

Whatdoyawannado · 12/12/2021 12:19

@MrPoppysParka I'm worried too, my DC and DH have just got over covid. DS2 back to school on Monday and I'm worried he's just going to wander in there for a a week and catch the new variant! I want to give his body full chance to recover before the next variant onslaught. That and I managed to swerve covid this time but won't be so lucky with Omnicron.

Whatdoyawannado · 12/12/2021 12:20

Omicron I mean..... 🙄

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MrPoppysParka · 12/12/2021 12:40

It’s so hard isn’t it? They are only back one for more week here. I don’t want to keep her off but at the same time I don’t want to ruin her Christmas!

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IfIknewyouwerecomingidhavebake · 12/12/2021 12:44

Agree. Also cannot face the thought of having it again so soon (we only came out of isolation on Thursday and missed having our boosters).

I will be sending my kids into school and hoping for the best. I guess that the lack of official information around this is that Omicron is relatively new and they don’t know yet?

Sparkle275 · 12/12/2021 14:28

This is also what I'm worried about too. All 5 of us have just come out of isolation. DD was back at secondary school Thursday and the rest of us have just come out of isolation from today and my 2 DS's are going back to primary school tomorrow. Our immune systems are already probably low after having covid, now I'm worried we can catch the new variant and everything under the sun going round. It's a worrying time. Unfortunately I have no idea if Omicron can be picked up straight away after having another covid variant. I guess we just have to carry on and hope for the best.

Akire · 12/12/2021 14:45

Same here can’t have booster as had covid on day it’s was booked for. My 2 AZ offer zero protection and nobody knows if antibodies will help against this strain when all spike proteins are so different. Have to muddle through next 3 weeks and hope for best.

martim · 12/12/2021 15:26

Absolutely not a silly question, I'm wondering the same. Double vacced with AZ, but that was almost 6 months ago. DH and I had to postpone our boosters as were positive a couple of weeks ago. DCs and I are back in schools with high rates and growing Omicron cases in our borough. The one relief when we all caught covid was it was out of the way for Xmas, it I'm finding it hard to find out if we have any immunity against Omicron.

inneedofchocolate · 12/12/2021 15:44

DD had Covid in August and she’s the only one in our home who doesn’t have Covid atm. DH, DS and myself all have Covid (possibly omicron). I think that her antibodies have probably provided protection.

MilkBread · 12/12/2021 15:47

I’m wondering the same

IfIknewyouwerecomingidhavebake · 12/12/2021 16:28

@martim you would have been informed if it was Omicron. Small reassurance I know Blush

morticiamarkle · 12/12/2021 20:33

[quote Whatdoyawannado]@morticiamarkle That was before Omicron.....[/quote]
So? It's not going to make any difference to a recovered patient. As long as they haven't been vaccinated first.

If you've had a naturally acquired infection you make a broad antibody response, with both s and n antibodies. And the nucleocapsid doesn't mutate remotely as much as the spike protein. So you are very likely to retain a high degree of immunity against all strains. People who got the 2003 SARS are still immune to SARS CoV2.

If you have been vaccinated first admittedly you may be more vulnerable though, because it's looking increasingly likely that we are seeing OAS and you won't get such a broad antibody response.

mrsdolittle · 12/12/2021 20:57

@morticiamarkle
So are you saying if you are vaccinated and have subsequently caught COVID your immunity is less strong than if you had never been vaccinated?

Apologies if I'm being thick - I'm on day 7 of COVID and my brain feels like it's encased in porridge!

Mapletreelane · 12/12/2021 21:06

I'm wondering the same. We had Covid 6 weeks ago so kids missed school vaccinations and I booked our boosters for Jan as didn't want to risk a reaction before Christmas. But that was pre omicron. So would we have any immunity currently to Omicron?

Rainydays55 · 12/12/2021 21:35

Also wondering the same here!

breadwidow · 12/12/2021 21:40

@morticiamarkle

Very unlikely while she still has lots of antibodies circulating More likely in about a year or so, but still v small chance according to this v large Israeli study (which likely overstates reinfections in naive patients as there wasn't as much pcr done early in the pandemic):
Really useful graph. Where's it from @morticiamarkle?
Covidworries · 12/12/2021 21:49

A primary aged relative had covid in october. No one else in household got it. He has just been ill again and tested positive this time rest of household have caught it. Other than chikd they all work from home.

Curtainpoleofdoom · 12/12/2021 21:58

DD had covid twice within 2 months. I’m wondering if the second time was Omicron? Same symptoms but slightly worse if anything the second time. I’m so worried she won’t stop getting it. Is that possible? Can some people not make immunity?

New guidelines seem to be for 12 plus year olds to wait 90 days for their vaccine from a positive pcr test. That’s a lot of time to get reinfected.

yoshiblue · 12/12/2021 22:34

@Curtainpoleofdoom

DD had covid twice within 2 months. I’m wondering if the second time was Omicron? Same symptoms but slightly worse if anything the second time. I’m so worried she won’t stop getting it. Is that possible? Can some people not make immunity?

New guidelines seem to be for 12 plus year olds to wait 90 days for their vaccine from a positive pcr test. That’s a lot of time to get reinfected.

@Curtainpoleofdoom can you advise where you've read guidance to wait 12 weeks between infection and a booster? I thought it was 28 days.
steppemum · 12/12/2021 22:40

yoshi - it is the advice for 12-16 year olds.

dd had covid in October and her school were all vaccinated 40 days after she had it, she was not allowed the vaccine as she wasn't 90 days past a positive test.