What IS the fuss about omicron?

[GingerHouse]

In all seriousness, data shows that not a single person has died from omicron and that’s in countries that have low vaccine uptake too.

The virus is going to mutate all the time and as things are showing this variant is very contagious and the vaccine doesn’t work as well against it, but it’s mild to almost everybody.

I feel like this is mass panic and for what reason?! I understand wearing a mask where applicable to help reduce the spread but I just don’t get it! Is this going to happen every winter forevermore?

@Silverswirl

Well what do you know. How handy- how do we convince people to have another jab? Ooh I know. Tell them there two jabs they did want but were convinced to have earlier this year are now worth fuck all and they need to have another just to get back to where they started. Repeat ad Infinium. 4th jab will be up in April with a new scare

But why would governments around the world WANT to get people to have the jab? What is the reason? Why would they tank their own economies for no reason? How did they get China and Russia on board?

I just don’t understand what you think the end game is for governments across the world to do this? And no one ever explains what the governments would possibly hope to achieve from this!!

@GingerHouse yes and unfortunately, covid won't just go away because you want it to. It's incredibly frustrating. It's tiring. It's exhausting. But ignoring it isn't an option and if you still don't understand why after two years, there's really no point in anyone engaging with you on this.

@milkyaqua

Imagine the participants in 10-20 years time, being asked questions by their now adult families about what it was like during the time of Covid... Well, I er I er I... I complained about 'restrictions', and I disbelieved the consensus of the science and the data from the most acclaimed virologists and epidemiologists of the times, and I joined in gangs of similar ninnies to mock anyone taking the virus seriously...

It won’t be talked about in past tense, because it’ll be the same thing, year after year after year after year….

Virus’s don’t disappear because humans want them to and because they hide away inside for a few weeks, which only prolongs they inevitable…

Oh. The Spanish flu pandemic did not end? That is news to me.

@milkyaqua

Oh. The Spanish flu pandemic did not end? That is news to me.

Oh it ended alright, but guess what? The healthy people in society weren’t expected to shield. It would have been the vulnerable that were protected, whilst everyone else kept things ticking over, you know, line jobs…… then it ran its course.

**A load of virue signalling crap- do you drive a car? If so you are killing up to 30 thousand people a year due to air polution related deaths.

Do you eat junk food, drink alcohol? If so you are contributing to the NHs being overstretched potentially killing the vulnrrable who may need your bed. We can all play this silly game.

Lose the caps lock btw, you sound like you're having some sort of fit online**

This this and this!

Let’s not gut get done people loved the lockdown. Loved working from home, not having to socialise, in their nice secure middle class suburbs….

[quote megustalacerveza]@Silverswirl no, definitely not.

Yes, of course the experts all say something different. They're all working on slightly different things, from different perspectives and with different motivations. Rational, intelligent, educated people read all their findings and opinions and then form a balanced point of view of the situation. They don't ask basic, trite questions a five-year-old would ask, thinking they're being very clever.[/quote]
I admire your patience, I really do, but there is zero point trying to educate people this stupid.

They even say ‘but there haven’t been any deaths yet!’… For the love of God, a. That is NOT what the SA excess death numbers say and b. there is always a lag, there’s been a lag for the whole of the pandemic!! Why do they not know this yet??

Let’s not forget that some people loved lockdown I mean 😭

@Whyevencare thanks for the graph. :) You’d think it would help some people but things in perspective but apparently not.

Oh it ended alright, but guess what? The healthy people in society weren’t expected to shield. It would have been the vulnerable that were protected, whilst everyone else kept things ticking over, you know, line jobs…… then it ran its course.

You should read up on the history, and the difference in mortality rates between cities that quarantined and socially distanced early, like St Louis, versus others that didn't like Philadelphia. (Spoiler alert: the peak mortality rate in St. Louis was only one-eighth of Philadelphia’s.) They even wore masks! Imagine that.

[quote Greyowl32]@megustalacerveza you say " People are afraid that a small proportion of people getting very sick from Omicron will cause an already overburdened NHS to collapse. And that means severe restrictions."

I don't think you realise just how well you have summed up how absurd your argument is. A " small proportion of people " getting sick when we can see from the graphs put up how tiny that number is compared to other illnesses and has been throughout the last 2 years despite the doom mongering means " severe restrictions " need to be brought in. Have you actually looked at the huge percentage of excess deaths caused by lockdowns and covid restrictions not actual covid itself driven by people like you driving this incessent hysteria relentlessly for a virus that has an average age of death above 80 whre even then only 8% are actual covid deaths without other serious complications?[/quote]
I wouldn’t waste your energy. Some people loved the lockdown for their own selfish reasons, trying to pass it off as if it was purely selfless.

It's like there's a stupido factory somewhere pumping them out.

The whole world of information at your fingertips, threads on here devoted to the new VOC which might explain a few things to those who don't bother to keep up with the basics of the pandemic, but no...

Don’t engage @Greyowl32. Some people are incapable of mature discussion/debate and have to resort to childish insults. I think you’ve made some very good points, particularly irt excess non-covid related deaths.

@milkyaqua

Oh it ended alright, but guess what? The healthy people in society weren’t expected to shield. It would have been the vulnerable that were protected, whilst everyone else kept things ticking over, you know, line jobs…… then it ran its course.

You should read up on the history, and the difference in mortality rates between cities that quarantined and socially distanced early, like St Louis, versus others that didn't like Philadelphia. (Spoiler alert: the peak mortality rate in St. Louis was only one-eighth of Philadelphia’s.) They even wore masks! Imagine that.

Completely different set if circumstances to now.

The average age of death was younger then, they didn’t have antibiotics so people could have died from an ear infection! Imagine that….

Living until you’re 82 would have been unimaginable for the majority of people back then and the stressful living and working conditions and lack of sanitation would have contributed to diseases.

There would be no cancer treatments, heart transplants, or everything that we have now to prolong life.

@Whyevencare well that graph put it into perspective for me. Thank you