Press conference with JVT et al

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So refreshing to have a press conference without Latin bluster and waffle. That is it really.

I come away with a clear understanding of what is going to happen with the vaccines going forward.

Booster will now available for all adults over 18, 'No sooner than 3 months from 2nd vaccine'.
Immunosuppressed should get 4th dose 3 months after 3rd dose, not 6 months.

@Imfedupwithallofthis

Booster will now available for all adults over 18, 'No sooner than 3 months from 2nd vaccine'. Immunosuppressed should get 4th dose 3 months after 3rd dose, not 6 months.

The fourth doses will start being due from Wednesday, depending how quickly people managed to get their third done. Betting we all have to fight again as the computers don’t have it logged correctly.

Was going brilliantly until the football analogy. But generally very clear answers from all three of them.

Just 8 weeks until my 4th then!

Still no second dose for teenagers? The 12-15 group are really going to be out on a limb

Four vaccines in a single year? Seriously?

I didn't even know they were doing one!

How did you find out? Just on the news or is there an alert you can sign up to?

PlinkPlankPlunk

It was said 12 to 15 will be offered a second dose.

@TheDailyCarbunkle

Four vaccines in a single year? Seriously?

It’s only 4 for the very severely immunocompromised. I’m counting down the days to my 4th as will others in the same situation I know.

@Popcornriver

PlinkPlankPlunk

It was said 12 to 15 will be offered a second dose.

Was it really? In this press conference? That would be really good news for my anxious DD and her also-anxious friends!

@PlinkPlankPlunk

Still no second dose for teenagers? The 12-15 group are really going to be out on a limb

They will be offered a second vaccine after 12 weeks.

@TheDailyCarbunkle

Four vaccines in a single year? Seriously?

I'm really glad you said that too:I've been floored by four infections since September (cev),blood count now bouncing around dangerous levels,and I've felt rough after each jab,so would like to just feel bit crap for a bit (but I know I should be grateful,and I am, especially from we were a year ago) but four feels a lot!!

Fair enough @RachC2021. I don't think I'd be too happy to have the same vaccine administered four times when it's a new vaccine (in comparison to other vaccines such as the MMR) and it's not typical to have the same vaccine multiple times in the same year. I wonder how they're figuring out the health impact of repeated doses?

@Popcornriver yes I see it now - thanks for the heads-up!

@TheDailyCarbunkle

Fair enough *@RachC2021*. I don't think I'd be too happy to have the same vaccine administered four times when it's a new vaccine (in comparison to other vaccines such as the MMR) and it's not typical to have the same vaccine multiple times in the same year. I wonder how they're figuring out the health impact of repeated doses?

I take your point about newly licensed vaccination, but it's terms of administration it's certainly not unusual.

e.g., hep B - 3 doses over 4 months

The schedule for hepatitis B is flexible, but minimal intervals and minimum ages need to be observed: There should be at least 4 weeks between doses 1 and 2, and at least 8 weeks between doses 2 and 3. The minimum interval for the overall series from dose 1 to final dose is 4 months (16 weeks).

Im confused, at the weekend I could book a jab a day earlier than I could last week, but still 6 months since my last (minus 1 day.)

I've just tried to rearrange and all the appts that were there have gone. I've rearranged one day earlier. It was similar for my husband yesterday, one day earlier. Plus had to wait for 5 mins as there's so many people logging on.

Does this mean I can rock up to a vaccine bus and get one now (if they become available, local ones were v good)? As it's almost 5 months since my last.

The Hep B vaccine isn't like the covid vaccine though @saltedcaramel1 so there's no way to extrapolate any knowledge from it in terms of the effect (good or bad) of multiple doses.

And when will this occur?

You can check availability before booking but it's only as much as AM or PM and pm was 3pm latest appt.

@TheDailyCarbunkle

Four vaccines in a single year? Seriously?

Yep. Actually 6 as I've had a flu jab and pneumonia one too Plus 64 injections I do myself. It is what it is and I'm glad of the protection!

@TheDailyCarbunkle

The Hep B vaccine isn't like the covid vaccine though *@saltedcaramel1* so there's no way to extrapolate any knowledge from it in terms of the effect (good or bad) of multiple doses.

Was just replying to your point that it's not typical to have the same vaccine multiple times in the same year

Personally, I don't why the mechanism of action (i.e., mRNA template instead of antigenic material) would make a difference in terms of this, but I understand why others would be more cautious

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Sky cut this briefing and I was gutted as it was clear and concise and made sense.
JVT is a great orator ( unlike Boris Johnson )

I suppose the point is it's unknown @saltedcaramel1 - the original trials didn't include 3 or 4 doses. It could be absolutely fine, but it seems risky to me to give thousands of people something without knowing what the potential consequences are.

@the80sweregreat

Sky cut this briefing and I was gutted as it was clear and concise and made sense. JVT is a great orator ( unlike Boris Johnson )

Absolutely! BBC showed the whole thing.

@TheDailyCarbunkle

I suppose the point is it's unknown *@saltedcaramel1* - the original trials didn't include 3 or 4 doses. It could be absolutely fine, but it seems risky to me to give thousands of people something without knowing what the potential consequences are.

I beleive the reason that there's confidence in safety is because there isn't really a plausible mechaism by which multiple doses of a vaccine could cause cumulative risk of side effects. It's not like a drug where it can build up or remain in the body.

Nevertheless, we have data from other countries (far in excess of a clinical trial) regarding 3rd doses in the general population which is being used to evaluate safety profile

As I said, I understand why someone would be cautious, but for me I don't see an issue