Can the vaccine stop you catching covid

[Elephantsparade]

I know this sounds like a stupid question but does the vaccine sometime stop you getting covid at all.

I heard so much about how it reduces symptoms (which is a huge benefit) and you can still pass it on, that I dont know if you not get it all.
I also dont get the difference between having it asymptomatic or just not having when exposed - like it must go in your body either way. Is it just how much it multiples?

@mybodymychoice

I don't know what covid is. I know a lot of what we've been told isn't real.

What isn't real? Virus? People dying?

@Cornettoninja

*The numbers In hospital who have had the injections I’m finding very concerning. The government’s technical briefing is saying they are definitely the majority*

But that’s expected isn’t it? 80% of over 12’s are vaccinated so that’s a much bigger pool of people than the 20% unvaccinated.

It's more than 95%+ of the older and CV vulnerable population (who would by far have been at greatest risk of being hospitalised) have been vaccinated...

Barbie222 - she didn't go into a lot of detail, but that they test for a response to a virus, any virus, not specifically a novel coronavirus. She said you may as well throw them in the bin. There is a lot of info out there on this. The inventor of the test said specifically before he died that the test could not be used to test for coronaviruses.

@mybodymychoice

I don't know what covid is. I know a lot of what we've been told isn't real.

Can you give (say) 3 specific examples of what isnt real @mybodymychoice?

I was disappointed to catch it from my partner, we were both double jabbed. I showed symptoms just 24hrs after he started coughing. This proved it to me that you can catch it and pass it on easily, hopefully it will save you intensive care.

Allthatfancy

The stats
The test
The news reports

The list is very long though.

@mybodymychoice

Barbie222 - she didn't go into a lot of detail, but that they test for a response to a virus, any virus, not specifically a novel coronavirus. She said you may as well throw them in the bin. There is a lot of info out there on this. The inventor of the test said specifically before he died that the test could not be used to test for coronaviruses.

Ah yes I remember this claim.

Definitely from your friend who is a practising clinican?

I know reuters is frowned upon here, but this article gives a good overview as to why "The inventor of the test said specifically before he died that the test could not be used to test for coronaviruses" invalid

It was a quote taken out of context, regarding HIV

www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr-idUSKBN24420X

@mybodymychoice

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Interesting, I have 2 doctor friends that say that the tests do test for covid

Where does that leave us? Why do you/your friend think that all the other doctors in the world are taking part in lying to their patients?

@mybodymychoice

Allthatfancy

The stats
The test
The news reports

The list is very long though.

None of those are specific examples, of course some stats may be wrongly interpreted, no one except a fool thinks every news report is true but none of that would lead a sensible person to think covid isn't real

Okie doke.

Two doses of the vaccines we currently have, in the way we’ve deployed them overall currently prevent a smallish majority of infections. More than half. That’s with the impact of delta and waning.

The good news is that a third dose increases effective by about 90% compared to two doses. That includes potentially 88% protection against diagnostic infection and 93% against symptomatic infection (real world data out of Israel.)

So with the number of cases we have, and the amount we’re all being exposed, there will still be a lot of cases in the vaccinated. But many fewer than if we were all still unvaccinated, given the R0 of Delta is around 6-7. We’re currently bumping around an R0 of just over 1 thanks to patchy mask wearing, continued lower number of average contacts due to eg ongoing working from home, and good levels of vaccination.

Sorry meant to attach ONS graph.

This 2 minute video from the Vaccine Makers Project also has a good visualisation of it all:

@Cornettoninja I was a COVID dead end. My husband infected me but not the two boostered people in our house, including an immunosuppressed 83-year old.

I didn’t go out once I knew he was positive except for walks in quiet places—we live in the country. And as soon as I was positive too, four days later, I obviously didn’t do this.

So it stopped with me.

Double jabbed and got covid two weeks ago- at a time I was barely leaving the house. When I was working out of the home I didn't get it, despite being around many people, when I start WFH I catch it (sods law)

I thought I hadn't passed it on to anybody else but unfortunately my 4 week old Grandson who lives here tested positive at the end of my isolation period and now my son has it (his last covid jab was 4 weeks ago). Pretty sure it's going to get everyone in the house now.

I thought my Grandson was low risk of catching it as I had isolated away from him and was vaccinated, thankfully, he is recovering very well.

@mybodymychoice

Barbie222 - she didn't go into a lot of detail, but that they test for a response to a virus, any virus, not specifically a novel coronavirus. She said you may as well throw them in the bin. There is a lot of info out there on this. The inventor of the test said specifically before he died that the test could not be used to test for coronaviruses.

@mybodymychoice

Dr Mullis (PCR test inventor) died in August, 2019, before the emergence of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the COVID-19 pandemic. He did not say this about coronaviruses.

Where are yo getting this false information from? Did you hire a psychic? Or is this just something you read online?

Thanks @oneglassandpuzzled. My interest was pure nosiness and it’s good to hear that you believe it stopped with you

With a user name like mybodymychoice I think it's safe to assume where the poster stands on COVID and vaccines and therefore anything she says should be taken with several 25 kilo bags of salt.

I'm CV (immunosuppressed due to RA meds). Double jabbed since June. Caught covid at the end of August. Was completely asymptomatic. DH (not CV) was also asymptomatic.

DD24 who lives at home (very small flat, no way to isolate from each other), double jabbed since early August, didn't catch it at all.

So yes, vaccines can stop transmission. And even if they don't, they can reduce symptoms/severity, even in those who are vulnerable. Thank goodness for them.

Also, lol at @mybodymychoice