Vaccine for 5-11 year olds - would you go abroad to get it?

[Kirkybean2]

Has anyone done this already for their 12+? I’ve heard vaccine tourism is a thing. My kids were born in the USA, we lived there for a few years, so I’d consider travelling to get them jabbed if the U.K. drags its feet on vaxxing younger kids. In some states you don’t have to be resident to qualify. Anyone know anything more about this? An expensive option, but one we’d consider if it was a sure thing and there’s no other option in sight here at home.

@Remmy123

It's crazy!!!

Kids that age don't even get ill with it - I can't understand the mentality of someone that wants to give that age group a jab or go abroad for it wheh they know it's not even approved in their own country.

Covid has made people quite odd!!!

You’ve not seen the huge numbers of kids then with long covid in the support groups? Blanket statement much that kids don’t get ill. That’s what is dangerous. You can not get your kids vaccinated if you don’t want to.

@Kirkybean2 I would travel to get my kids vaccinated if needed and other countries ere doing it and I had the means to do so.

My view is those that get side effects or clots from the vaccine, are the ones that would have had the same and worse with covid, they are genetically more susceptible and they would have faired even worse with covid.

Wow. I’m not up for debating vaccination for children on this thread

But your thread is literally about vaccinating children. Of course you’ll get replies ranging from “yes I’d take them abroad”, “no but when approved here they can have it” and “no, they’re not having it ever”

I'm American as are my kids and we regularly spend our summers in the states. I wouldn't travel specifically for the jab, but if it's been approved this summer and not in the UK I will definitely get my kids vaccinated while we're there, and stay longer or whatever was required to finish the course

@KeepOnNCing

My view is those that get side effects or clots from the vaccine, are the ones that would have had the same and worse with covid, they are genetically more susceptible and they would have faired even worse with covid.

Yes, that is what I think too. clots or myocarditis, it seems to link to immune response of individual. So I think if my dc gets them from vaccine, probability to get them from the actual virus is even higher and worse.

@Kohby190

Please don’t attack me but is anyone worried about potential adverse reactions for this age group?

In Australia the TGA confirmed 60 likely cases of myocarditis in one week.

My daughter is almost 3 and I would be apprehensive to give her the shot.

Absolutely which is why neither of my dc aged 12 and 15 are getting the vaccination

@KeepOnNCing

My view is those that get side effects or clots from the vaccine, are the ones that would have had the same and worse with covid, they are genetically more susceptible and they would have faired even worse with covid.

Is that a view based on anything, are you particularly knowledgeable in the field?

I’m not saying it’s not true, and I’m not anti-vaccine. I’m just curious if this opinion is backed up by anything?

Q: Would you travel abroad to vaccinate your 5-11 year old?

A: No, because it’s astonishingly unlikely kids will get Ill from Covid and there is finely balanced risk/reward

Not sure why that’s controversial or makes someone an anti vaxxer? It’s just answering the question as posed.

Or I do we have to answer, “no” then we have to sign off without exposing why to be allowed on the thread?!

@SickAndTiredAgain

I don't think it's backed up by any study yet. To publish the study, they have to be sure as a scientist or doctors, don't they? But we as a parents, we can make assumptions. But after reading a lot of articles, that's what I came to conclusion to.
Do we need confirmation from the studies in regards to adverse effect vs covid effect, to decide if we should vaccinated or not? Data is already there, in regards to the odds of adverse reaction with vaccine against covid effects.

Absolutely not. I wouldn't inflict the stress of all that on her for a vaccine that is not even needed for children imo. It's baffling that some people are so desperate for their kids to have this vaccine that they'd drag them halfway across the world.

I wouldn't travel anywhere outside my country to get a vaccine of any type. Unless you are also travelling with medical documents how would the country know that they aren't exempt?

If you're that concerned about wanting it, google to see if there are any trials for the age.

@Geamhradh

The problem, OP, is that on any thread mentioning the vaccine, you'll get the anti-vaxxers sending out the bat signal. The pro-vaxxers (like me) get the signal too though (it'll be in our 5g chips) so we come along to share the bantz.

I'm in Italy and it's rumoured that our health ministry will soon approve the vaccine for 5-12 year olds as that is one of the two groups seeing a current surge in cases. The other being the city of Trieste, which is the hub of the anti Vax protests. It has something like 4x as many cases X 1000 as any other city in Italy. To the point that there's talk of local restrictions being tightened.

Don't be so dismissive. Not everyone questioning this will be 'anti vaxxers'. Jesus, grow up.

@Remmy123

It's crazy!!!

Kids that age don't even get ill with it - I can't understand the mentality of someone that wants to give that age group a jab or go abroad for it wheh they know it's not even approved in their own country.

Covid has made people quite odd!!!

Agree. I am very much pro vaccination (before there are any childish accusations) and my child has had all offered vaccinations. But my small child will only have medical procedures that benefit HIM and HIS health.

I'm dismissive of anti vaxxers.
I'll continue to be so.

No

I would not do that but you do you.

I'm dismissive of anti vaxxers too. When there is better chance for your child by vaccinating, and if someone think the natural infection is better, I think they are bonkers tbh. It's complicated in UK, because the current norm seem to suit that of anti vaxxers, get everyone get natural immunity, when the outcome is uncertain.

@Geamhradh

I'm dismissive of anti vaxxers. I'll continue to be so.

Been wary of getting your young children vaccinated against a disease that is unlikely to make the very ill, with a vaccine that does not prevent infection, that had only been tested on a very small number of children does not make you anti-vax and comments like yours are incredibly unhelpful.

I am a no to the vaccine at the moment for my 2 under 12s as I want to see real life data 1st.

If it does get approved in UK at some point then I am sure it will have been proved safe enough. A trial of a couple of thousand does nothing to convince me.

My daughter is 12 next month and there is absolutely no way she is getting the vaccine. She's already had covid but even if she hadn't I still would not be getting her vaccinated.

OK. I hold my hand up and say, yes, my initial question was a little ambiguous. I should have been clearer. It should have read ‘If you’re strongly in favour of vaccinating your 5-11 year old, would you travel abroad to get it?’ Anyone who doesn’t fit into that category can trot off and post somewhere else, have fun. I’m really interested to hear from those who looking forward to the day we can get our kids protected, and maybe are from/have connections with other countries where that might be a realistic possibility. So thanks for those responses.

Yes, we have talked about doing this. We would not make a separate trip but would consider vaccination if we are there.

If it does get approved in UK at some point then I am sure it will have been proved safe enough. A trial of a couple of thousand does nothing to convince me.

I hope by the time the vaccine is approved in UK, you have better understanding, either you decide to vaccinate or not. After all, many children in other countries will be guinea pig for you to decide it's safe or not for your children. Seriously, there are children who are participating/participated in the trial for greater good. Be respectful, at least.

I cannot see any possible benefit to doing this.

@Geamhradh

I'm dismissive of anti vaxxers. I'll continue to be so.

My point was (obviously) that you are dismissing people as 'anti vaxxers' who are not. It's completely dishonest to use that as a blanket label and is clearly designed to dismiss people.

Again, grow up.

@Kirkybean2

Wow. I’m not up for debating vaccination for children on this thread, please don’t bother. I want my kids vaccinated, end of. USA has approved Pfizer for 5-11 year olds. I’m more interested in hearing people’s views on logistics of doing something like this. I don’t care about having something on the NHS system, all of my kids’ vaccinations as babies and toddlers were done in the States, it’s not a problem.

I’m not sure what the faux outrage is about? You must know there is a significant debate in this country about the wisdom/ merits of vaccinating children- hence you potentially needing to travel abroad to get your children vaccinated. So if you post a thread with the question “would you travel abroad to get your kids vaccinated” you were bound to get this range of replies.

But appreciate the clarification- In terms of logistics I know plenty of adults who’ve been vaccinated in the US during a visit/ holiday, so with adults at least the princess seems to be very flexible / easy? I don’t know if they have stricter rules for kids’ vaccines though..