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School covid outbreak WWYD?

60 replies

Halloweenrainbow · 31/10/2021 22:40

For context I'm a single parent with limited resources and support.

Due to work commitments, DD (6) is collected and watched after school by DM (75) who has several covid vulnerabilities and has not yet received a booster (due to a temporary health issue) . Just found out that there is an outbreak in DDs class involving 2 children and 1 teacher. These are my options :

A- Keep DD off for a week hoping that it doesn't spread anymore and DD doesn't catch it and pass on to DM.

B - Carry on as normal hoping that the vaccine holds.

OP posts:
rrhuth · 01/11/2021 00:30

@noblegiraffe

No chance of a booster for 4 years at least

Are they not giving them to under 50s at all then?

Surely this won't hold, those under 50 will have no immunity which begs the question - why were we vaccinated at all?

There will surely have to be vaccination boosters or we will no longer be classed as vaccinated for travel etc.?

rrhuth · 01/11/2021 00:32

@BungleandGeorge

Won’t she have already been in a classroom with them? I would be trying to heavily persuade your mum to have the booster. Primary kids are all unvaccinated so unfortunately I don’t think the risk of them getting covid is going to decrease for some time yet. How does your mum feel about having her?
OP stated clearly their mum couldn't have the booster just at this time for health reasons.
walksen · 01/11/2021 03:53

"Most teachers are probably not due their boosters shots yet, so should still be well protected. Hopefully"

Not sure this matters to anyone making decisions. It didn't in September last year "as children do not transmit". Now the jcvi minutes say children don't transmit to each other but natural immunity is better for them whilst acting as "boosters" for adults.

Meanwhile I have a colleague off for 4 weeks with covid about to be signed off for the next 2 due to covid.

It might well be the case your 75 your old mum doesn't catch covid if you go for A but if she does how would you or your child feel about that?

The first thing I worried about when I got it last year was worry about who I might have given it to ...

CarrieBlue · 01/11/2021 04:41

There will surely have to be vaccination boosters or we will no longer be classed as vaccinated for travel etc.?

The vaccination programme isn’t there so you can go on your holidays.

PinkPlantCase · 01/11/2021 04:56

Is there an option C OP where you temporarily change your childcare arrangement? Could you vary your hours?

I don’t think a week would be long enough for it to stop spreading in the class.

ittakes2 · 01/11/2021 06:04

When you said outbreak I thought you meant almost half the class. I am sorry I don't know what you do but unfort this is not going to be an isolated incident. Children the age of your son won't be getting a vaccine anytime soon from what I can see - so unfort this does mean at some point everyone in his class will get it including himself.
Why don't you talk to your mum and see how she feels about it and let her make the decision. Even if she was to have a booster tomorrow, it would take 2.5 weeks for her to get the full effect.,
You could also consider buying her a covid antibody test - just because she is late with her vaccine doesn't mean her body has lost immunity. My hubby and I had vaccines at the same time - we did this test to see and his immunity was still strong and mine was medium. The results might help guide you.

Morph2lcfc · 01/11/2021 06:24

@noblegiraffe

No chance of a booster for 4 years at least

Are they not giving them to under 50s at all then?

I didn’t think I was due the booster as I’m under 50 but I got the txt from NHS and had it Saturday as it was more than 6 months since last
Halloweenrainbow · 01/11/2021 06:57

@ittakes2 that's a good idea although by the time she's had the test and got results she will likely have had her booster anyway. It's realy just a matter of getting through the next few weeks. I'd love to get an antibody test. Been nearly 5 months since my 2nd dose but not sure if I'll be offered a booster (group 6 but in my 30s).

OP posts:
DobbyTheHouseElk · 01/11/2021 07:02

I think once the virus is in the school it stays. Unfortunately I don’t think waiting a week will work. Why not speak to the school and ask what their mitigations are. Open windows, masks etc. we are in a high infection area and schools are back to bubbles and masks now.

Appuskidu · 01/11/2021 07:06

Most teachers are probably not due their boosters shots yet, so should still be well protected. Hopefully.

I’m 6 months from my second but not in any of the booster priority groups, so no.

jackiebenimble · 01/11/2021 07:12

One year group in my kids school had multiple kids test positive so they rebubbled and put in extra precautions. It lasted less than a week as there were no new cases:

I guess im saying its lovely you want to protect MIL but it could be a lot of hassle for a futile act.

Your daughter is already risking her by mingling with her daily after being in covid soup. And in reality there is little change in this situation.

BungleandGeorge · 01/11/2021 07:17

@rrhuth there are very few contraindications to vaccination.

rrhuth · 01/11/2021 07:21

[quote BungleandGeorge]@rrhuth there are very few contraindications to vaccination.[/quote]
Yes I know - my point is in public health terms it is stupid to get those aged

MiddleParking · 01/11/2021 07:21

@CarrieBlue

There will surely have to be vaccination boosters or we will no longer be classed as vaccinated for travel etc.?

The vaccination programme isn’t there so you can go on your holidays.

Of course that’s one of the reasons it’s there Confused
MarshaBradyo · 01/11/2021 07:21

Difficult one if this is the first set of cases it’s likely to go on for a few weeks

SinoohXaenaHide · 01/11/2021 07:26

C - Talk to your employer about temporarily finishing work at 3pm to collect DD and then log in again after 6/7pm to polosh off the last few tasks of the day as needed. Just for 2 weeks till this current outbreak has subsided.

CarrieBlue · 01/11/2021 10:02

Of course that’s one of the reasons it’s there confused

That’s a happy side benefit, it’s not the purpose of the vaccination programme or 12 year olds would be entitled to two doses automatically.

Anyway, looks like anyone six months past vaccine 2 can go to a walk in clinic now thank goodness, so at least I should be able to get a booster by the end of the year. Shame there’s two months of stuffy classrooms to survive first though. OP, get your DM to a walk in clinic asap

containsnuts · 01/11/2021 10:13

Thanks for all the suggestions. The main issue is that we have no idea how long the outbreak might go on for and I can't keep DD home forever. There's no option other than for DM to do the school drop off and pick-up atm so they'll just have to mask and keep a window open in the car. I have been allowed to wfh this week so will have DD here rather with granny after school. Hopefully that'll help. I'll just have to stick her on youtube and neglect her for an hour until I finish Sad. We're going to LFT every day before she goes in the car (she does the test herself now in the mirror so not too traumatic). Hopefully we can avoid infection until DM gets her booster. Fingers crossed the school has the windows open.

CarrieBlue · 01/11/2021 10:26

Sounds like a solution OP

Reading further, still only over 50s plus vulnerable people eligible for walk in Sad

Bobholll · 01/11/2021 13:11

@CarrieBlue - surely if you are under 50 & not vulnerable you are not due a booster yet? Just wait until the 6 month mark?

DementedPanda · 01/11/2021 13:15

How do you prove you are 6 months post 2nd dose and in group 6 at a walk in centre?

CarrieBlue · 01/11/2021 13:18

@Bobholll - I won’t be eligible even after six months as it currently stands

CarrieBlue · 01/11/2021 13:20

@DementedPanda - surely they check your details as you arrive/sit down at the vaccination station so would get that information from your nhs record?

BungleandGeorge · 01/11/2021 13:25

The evidence of effectiveness reducing after 6 months is variable (not all studies show it) and more significant in elderly/ immunocompromised. The current ones coming up for booster would have had the first dose at the end of jan/ beginning of feb. They are the people in the highest risk groups, they need to be prioritised surely. I can’t understand why under 50s are at the point of needing a booster? I don’t think we’ll hear anything about it for younger, healthy people until the priority groups are done

BungleandGeorge · 01/11/2021 13:28

@DementedPanda

How do you prove you are 6 months post 2nd dose and in group 6 at a walk in centre?
Have you checked the nhs vaccination website? It usually says on there, it did say to wait until contacted but I’m not sure what it is says currently. Your vaccination record is on your medical records or your covid pass
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