You're required to self isolate as a contact even if double jabbed...

[Frezia]

...if you received your vaccine outside of the UK.

www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/test-trace-flight-foreign-vaccines-isolate-b1941749.html

My mother currently visiting from an EU country where she lives was flagged as a contact of a positive person (someone on the plane) and has to self isolate, even though she received their jabs well over 14 days ago and has an EU Covid passport. Basically, Grant Schapps considers her vaccinated so she didn't need to self isolate upon arrival, but for Sajid Javid she's unvaccinated and has to self isolate now being flagged as a contact.

It's mind blowing that she and I could've travelled on the same plane and been flagged as the contact of the same person but she would have to self isolate and I wouldn't, simply because I got my vaccines here.

However, she's allowed to break self isolation early to go to the airport and catch her flight home and is under no obligation to do a test to prove she's negative before she breaks self isolation.

There is no logic in any of that except stupid obsession with exceptionalism which is so frustrating.

Yes we found this out in the last few days too, when a family member was told to SI even after his PCR was negative following contact with a positive case. We couldn't understand why they were telling him to do that but eventually managed to get to the bottom of it (it was because he had his jabs in France before moving back to the UK). I had no idea this was a thing, and feel pretty annoyed on his behalf as it just seems so unnecessarily obstructive.

Yes this is the case. I am having arguments with students about this every day at work and if it doesn't change I think it will be the "Covid thing" that finally pushes me over the edge.

Yes we found this out when it happened to people we know. They had AZ so the same vaccine as us, but apparently it doesn’t count because they had it outside of the UK!

Please can I ask a question:

If you are a close contact as per the current Covid definition, and are either double vaccinated or under 18 years old and have none of the official covid symptoms, are you required to SI or not? I don't think so but want to be sure. TIA.

In England if you are identified as a close contact and are double jabbed (plus 24 days from your second jab) or are under 18 years and 6 months old you are not required to isolate.

I think the rules are slightly different in Scotland but that is not my area of expertise so you would need to check elsewhere if that is where you are based.

I love the way the virus knows where you had your injections and exactly what age you are.

Bit racist isn't i

Or nationalistic or something

Just plain rude

Typical of the way the UK government has handled the pandemic. At the start of the pandemic, when cases really were much higher in many other European countries than in the UK, the government did nothing to slow the importation of Covid cases into the UK. Now that Covid rates are much lower in many European countries compared to the UK, the government imposes completely illogical rules based on the notion that people coming to the UK from abroad are the problem.

Basically everyone should isolate now if they have a close contact in their household as the latest study shows the vaccine makes no difference with household transmission. I think this is where most spread has been happening tbh and would work far better than social distancing and masks.

Well I wouldn't say it 'makes no difference', it obviously does make some difference - www.imperial.ac.uk/news/231557/covid-vaccines-effective-household-transmission-delta/.

Anecdotally, out of 10 families I know of who have had a positive case in the last few weeks, only two have passed it on within their household.

But anyway, the rules are the rules and the point is, why on earth should they be different for people who have had the same vaccine, but just happened to be given it in a different country?