Does my husband have to isolate again?

[Megan2018]

Just trying to work out what the actual rules are here-not looking to avoid isolating.

DH has only had 1 vaccine, I have had both. DD is 2 so unvaccinated.

DD tested positive after a nursery outbreak. She initially had no symptoms, then a cough. DH and I tested negative (daily LFDs and a PCR) through her isolation which ended after midnight. DH stayed at home for the full 10 days. He has had a cough but no other symptoms and didn’t test positive on any tests although seems highly likely he had it too. I didn’t have to isolate but stayed at home, apart from a daily trip to care for my horse (outside, no people). We shopped online etc.

I tested positive on an LFD this afternoon, no symptoms and am waiting on a PCR result. We haven’t been anywhere since I did the LFD.
If the PCR is positive, DD technically doesn’t have to isolate but does DH have to start 10 days again? We are trying to establish if DD can return to nursery next week, but she can’t if DH can’t take her. I also need DH to feed the horse!
He still has a bit of a cough, no new symptoms. As yet he’s not been for a new PCR but will.

Can someone point me to something definitive? I’m confused.

I'm in Scotland so rules are possible slightly different but if his PCR comes back negative and he is double jabbed, I think that means he doesn't have to isolate again. He shouldn't go out, other than to do his test, for any other reason though. Check out the government covid advice to confirm.

Can you find someone else to feed/muck out your horse until it has happened? If absolutely not then I'd say, given its an animal welfare issue, he could go straight there and straight back but there is always a risk he comes into contact with someone; car break down for a start.

As he has only had the one jab, yes he would to isolate again.

If your positive is after the 10 days from your daughters positive, rather than overlapping, then he needs to isolate again.

Yes. Until he is double jabbed he’s required to isolate.

If your husband is positive at any stage he needs to do 10 days. For example, if he had tested positive on day 9 of your daughters 10 days he would do 10 from the day he tests positive. Therefore 19 days in total. If she finished isolation and there were a 3 day gap where all appeared to be well but he then tested positive he starts his ten days from the result.

Also once you are double jabbed you still isolate 10 days upon a positive test. It used to be the case that once you had done your ten days you could go about your business even if another household contact develops symptoms become household isolation started with the first case. Check with contact tracing if they call. The best thing would be for him to get a test.

Yes, he will need to isolate every close contact until he’s a set period past his second vaccine. I thought most had had their second by now though apart from some 17/18 year olds.

Ah I read it as DH was double jabbed - that's what I get for reading mumsnet half asleep 🙈 in that case, yes he has to isolate.

Yes he has to isolate again as he’s not fully vaccinated.

Check the exemptions re feeding the horse - you can’t exactly leave it to starve and there are exemptions around caring for animals

If he has another PCR and it's positive I think his isolation can be counted from the start of his symptoms. If he has had a cough already for a few days he might not need to isolate for much longer.

Can anyone show me where in the rules it says it though? There’s a section that implies he doesn’t but it’s not clear. I’ll attach what I mean.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection#samehousehold

My positive LFD was on DD and DH’s last day of isolation. If I get a positive PCR today it will be on their first day out of isolation. They both have had their coughs for about 8 days. He doesn’t have any new symptoms.

DH was late to have his first jab as he is needle phobic and needed a lot of help to go. His second has now been canceled 3 times as he’s been self isolating or otherwise ill himself (we’ve had a lot of nursery germs and 10 recent PCR’s each!). He should have had the 3rd attempt in this 10 day period. It’s certainly frustrating that he’s missed it again.

With regards to the link above. It doesn’t say what to do if you tested negative and then someone else in your household tests positive without symptoms.
But if I tested positive with symptoms it reads that he doesn’t.
Clear as mud!

If your positive is overlapping with the 10 days household isolation, and he has no ongoing symptoms, then he can stop isolating. See the graphic.

Did he get a PCR at the same time as your PCR? If not, I'd suggest he gets one as a household contact. I'd also be inclined to carry on as you have been - food deliveries, minimal contact - and regular lft testing by him.

@WhatsitWiggle

If your positive is overlapping with the 10 days household isolation, and he has no ongoing symptoms, then he can stop isolating. See the graphic.

Did he get a PCR at the same time as your PCR? If not, I'd suggest he gets one as a household contact. I'd also be inclined to carry on as you have been - food deliveries, minimal contact - and regular lft testing by him.

DH and I both had a PCR after DD tested positive, that was negative for both of us. That was 9 days ago.

I did another PCR yesterday after my positive LFD which was on their day 10 of isolation, but DH couldn’t do one as we couldn’t go together as we couldn’t take DD. He will go this weekend. We live rurally and it’s a bit of a trek so wasn’t time to both go separately as my positive LFD was at 5pm. I got a 6.30 appointment but they shut at 8, he couldn’t get there after I got back.

Forgot to say, he still has symptoms in that he still coughs a bit. But none of us have had fever/loss of smell/taste etc.
But coughs do linger don’t they, and positive people can stop isolating with a cough. But not with a temp or upset stomach, at least that’s what test and trace said……but they weren’t exactly convincing!

As he’s not been able to have his second jab he will need to isolate again.
If he has symptoms he should isolate anyway regardless of results (might he have been one of the false negatives from the lab in Wolverhampton?).
It’s a pain but is likely to keep happening until he’s a few weeks past having his second jab.

Did he have a PCR after he developed symptoms?

But either way, yes he will need to self-isolate because your isolation period will start from the day of your positive Lft and therefore his will also restart

Well after all that the PCR is negative, so I’ve now had 2 positive LFD’s and 2 negative PCR’s-what a load of nonsense when the PCR’s were taken same day as the LFD’s. Seems dodgy to me…..
But we have freedom now at least.
Flu jabs next