Can my son get his vaccine tomorrow?

[boon]

My youngest had 2 positive lateral flows tonight. Vaccines were due in school tmrw. Can my eldest who had a negative LFT still get his vaccine tomorrow? What happens if he has the vaccine and then gets covid off his brother?

Yes, he can get vaccinated as long as he doesn’t have symptoms or a positive test.

If he gets covid, he gets covid. The reason for the wait if you yourself have COVID is in case people get a particularly bad course of covid it means they wouldn’t also have vaccine side effects at the same time.

Thank you so much for replying. Such bad luck that this has happened now, but what can you do.

I'd retest him this evening or tomorrow morning. If still symptomatic and negative then yes he can get it done

If someone has confirmed covid, or covid symptoms and awaiting test, then they should not get it done - not least to protect staff and others being vaccinated.

They asked me if anyone in my household had covid symptoms but that was way back when they started doing them.

The only advice I've managed to get on this is - if you have just tested negative for Covid then you should be ok to get the jab. If positive then don't - and obviously if positive you wouldn't be out and about anyway!

Similar situation here - two household members have Covid. The others have tested (continuously!!) and are still negative. DS1, after a neg PCR and about 5 neg LFTs, went in yesterday (fully masked throughout the day I might add) and had his Covid and flu vaccines, thank god. I couldn't find ANY helpful information on whether it was advisable to get vaccinated if there was a reasonable possibility that the individual was incubating Covid - and I mean none, I rang the school immunisation service and was told to ring the national Covid Helpline (119) which was about as useful as a chocolate teapot. I ended up seeking advice from a family member who's a medic and was told, if he's still testing negative the day of the jab, it ought to be ok. Just hope that's borne out, because Covid and flu vaccines are a bit of a double whammy but on top of a possible actual Covid infection ... I'm sure he'll be fine though and I'm glad he was able to get them done.

Thinking about it, countless 1000's of people must have been incubating or asymptomatic when vaccinated. Obviously those people haven't been tracked but I'm unaware of any indication that this was necessarily a bad thing.

No one in your household can go out anyway until your positive son has a PCR unless the guidance has changed? If his PCR is positive then everyone should isolate and have their own PCR.

@Dontstepinthecowpat

No one in your household can go out anyway until your positive son has a PCR unless the guidance has changed? If his PCR is positive then everyone should isolate and have their own PCR.

I’m guessing you’re not in England? This changed a while ago for under 18s/double vaccinated plus 14 days.

@PurpleDaisies sorry your right I’m in Scotland it’s so confusing.

dontstepinthecowpat YES the guidance has changed!! Some little while ago, over the summer. Do people still not know this?

I mean, it's a batshit crazy policy but it has had quite a bit of publicity. If someone in your household tests positive, the rest of the household may go merrily about their business outside the house IF they are either double vaccinated, are not able to be vaccinated for health reasons, or are under 18, or taking part in an official vaccine trial. You are advised to take a PCR asap, but even this is no longer mandatory. Yes, it's crazy and can only lead to the conclusion that the UK government would like as many of us to get it earlier in this autumn as possible, to save the rush later on this winter.

but no, if the rest of the household are double-vaxd and/or under 18, they are good to go.

argh cross-posted Cowpat, sorry for the snark! What is the case in Scotland then? Are whole households self-isolating if one of them has it?

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection#exempt

The clinical lead for vaccination said he can have it done. But just b4 they do it they will ring me to give permission. As they need to make me aware that if he gets symptoms in the next few days it will be hard to distinguish between vaccine side effects and covid. His lateral flow was negative again this morning. Sometimes I hate being a parent and having to make all these decisions.

@mudlarks

The only advice I've managed to get on this is - if you have just tested negative for Covid then you should be ok to get the jab. If positive then don't - and obviously if positive you wouldn't be out and about anyway!

Similar situation here - two household members have Covid. The others have tested (continuously!!) and are still negative. DS1, after a neg PCR and about 5 neg LFTs, went in yesterday (fully masked throughout the day I might add) and had his Covid and flu vaccines, thank god. I couldn't find ANY helpful information on whether it was advisable to get vaccinated if there was a reasonable possibility that the individual was incubating Covid - and I mean none, I rang the school immunisation service and was told to ring the national Covid Helpline (119) which was about as useful as a chocolate teapot. I ended up seeking advice from a family member who's a medic and was told, if he's still testing negative the day of the jab, it ought to be ok. Just hope that's borne out, because Covid and flu vaccines are a bit of a double whammy but on top of a possible actual Covid infection ... I'm sure he'll be fine though and I'm glad he was able to get them done.

Thinking about it, countless 1000's of people must have been incubating or asymptomatic when vaccinated. Obviously those people haven't been tracked but I'm unaware of any indication that this was necessarily a bad thing.

@mudlarks thank you so much for posting. So good to hear from someone else whos actually been in this situation. I agree there must be many others incubating covid or asymptomatic. The vaccine team were like 'oh we've not had this scenario b4' Which didnt help. Lets hope both our boys stay negative.

Ha, I bet they have had that scenario before, but not known! Hope it goes well for him. I was told (via DS, after he'd had his) that the vaccinators' main concern is that you couldn't tell if you were having a particularly bad reaction to the vaccine or it was just Covid, as you were told. Not sure that's the whole story though. But - bottom line I suppose is, it must happen a lot.

DS was chirpy this morning, said his arm hurt but wasn't feeling fluey or tired. I gave him a prophylactic paracetomol and another to take later on if he needs to.

The vaccine team were like 'oh we've not had this scenario b4' Which didnt help.

It is addressed in the green book. Vaccination is unlikely to have a detrimental effect on those who are asymptomatic or incubating covid. Those with confirmed Covid need to postpone. See p28.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018444/Greenbook_chapter_14a_16Sept21.pdf

@mudlarks whole household has to isolate in Scotland till symptomic/positive lft person has a pcr. If pcr is positive the. Whole household has to have a test then isolate until the get results. If negative they don’t have to isolate.

[quote Dontstepinthecowpat]@mudlarks whole household has to isolate in Scotland till symptomic/positive lft person has a pcr. If pcr is positive the. Whole household has to have a test then isolate until the get results. If negative they don’t have to isolate.[/quote]
Makes sense. After all, it was what we all had to do in England until a few months ago...but I'm sure the virus is now much more considerate.

So, the clinical lead at the school site wouldn't let him have it. She said he could get covid and be really ill! Totally different to the otherclinical lead this morning. I get so fed up with all this conflicting information!

@boon

So, the clinical lead at the school site wouldn't let him have it. She said he could get covid and be really ill! Totally different to the otherclinical lead this morning. I get so fed up with all this conflicting information!

That’s really frustrating. I would ask them to provide the guidance they’re basing that decision on.